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Old 02-20-2010, 08:21 AM
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1. Poker hand played on PartyPoker with an unknown potsize - Pokerhand.org

check or bet?


2. Poker hand played on PartyPoker with an unknown potsize - Pokerhand.org

check or bet?

3. Poker hand played on PartyPoker with a pot size of $14.82 - Pokerhand.org

Could I get him to fold with a third bullet or I should've just surender after his call on the flop? Or I shouldn't have cbet at all?
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:58 AM
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1. check behind
2. bet
3. Any reads on your opponent? It's pretty much impossible to find a good answer for your question without any reads. In general: Don't try to bluff ppl off strong hands. I think, it's fine to check behind here on the flop without reads (and I think, just calling pre would be fine as well).
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Old 02-20-2010, 10:46 AM
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1. check behind
2. bet
3. Any reads on your opponent? It's pretty much impossible to find a good answer for your question without any reads. In general: Don't try to bluff ppl off strong hands. I think, it's fine to check behind here on the flop without reads (and I think, just calling pre would be fine as well).
1. I did check behind. Turn was a heart and we both chech (should I bet turn?), river board paired, he bet 2/3 pot, I called and he had AK.

2. I checked, river board paired, he bet and I shoved (it was overbet but I was hoping he is some kind of a calling station and that he won't be able to throw nut flush).

I also realised later that probobly I should've bet turn becouse if I hit FH I will maximize value. Let's say if I did bet turn and got raised. Should I shove or just call?

3. Well later I realised that guy is calling station so my idea of getting him of hand was bad.
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Old 02-20-2010, 11:42 AM
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1. I think both a check or a bet on this turn is fine.
2. I don't rly bet the turn to get more value from a flush on the river, if I hit my FH. I think, there should be way more Ax type of hands in his range and I try to get 2more streets of value out of them. He might call us with something like KJ, QJ etc. as well.
If he raises, my reaction depends on my reads on him and his raise-size.
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Old 02-24-2010, 02:30 PM
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I bring some more hands which has some spots I am not sure of how to play it right:

1. Poker Hand History #5215680- Pokerhand.org

This player is regular on this limit. Pretty good. One of the reasons I wanted to keep pot small and checked turn was becouse I was confused with his limp.


2. Poker Hand History #5215683- Pokerhand.org

Don't have much information about this player. Seen 1 showdown where he 4bet AA and got all-in on villains shove.


3. Poker Hand History #5215704- Pokerhand.org

cbet flop, c/f turn if villan call flop?

4. Poker Hand History #5215710- Pokerhand.org

Villian is regular. I was also confused with his c/c as I already had reraise on his bet in my head.

I guess I should've bet turn. Let's say if villan call turn, should I bet river? I'm not sure if he would fold coz he also has 2 pair + K kicker.

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Old 02-25-2010, 08:23 AM
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for 2nd set of hands:

Hand1: I'm folding. If a reg limp-calls EP I put him on 22-55/A2s-A5s, and less likely 56s-89s... On the turn, your AJ is crushed by this range, and the only hand you beat that will lead the river is a bluff. It's tempting to beleive he somehow limp-called mid PP or A6s-ATs, but this is how you pay off

Hand2: IMO your preflop call is very marginal - EP unknown opener, more opps to act behind you, easily dominated hand, though I don't think it is bad. But on that flop it is a bluffcatcher plus very very weak draw. So do not see the reason to bet, I'd just checked the flop, called most turns, folded river unless improved.

Hand3: cbet is mandatory I beleive, but the turn depends on villain's tendencies. The problem with check-folding is most opps will call your cbet with any pair, and when you check to them you can't assume they won't protect-bet that weaker hands... I don't love it, but on that blank turn I'd rather put another value-bet to be called by worse. No more monies in after that.

Hand4: I don't like calling preflop raises with wheel aces, my understanding is better to fold them or 3bet, and you should incline towards folding when readless. This hand is a very good example: imagine you did not hit 2pair first (like A82 flop), no fun. Or, even if hit 2pair, think about how much value could you squeeze from his hand if turn was blank (less likely), or scare card for him (he potcontrolling even on the flop)? Another bad thing, even with 2pair his hand has decent equity for split/improve to the best... But if you 3bet pre he is likely to fold even AQo if he's a reg, not necessary but I'm sure he folds better hands quite often.
As played, I don't think it is a good idea to try to force him off a split (or better hand on the turn). If you bet the turn it is only to protect yourself from draws or get thin value from mid pocket pairs cause any river will most likely scare them unless improve. Betting the turn is ok, checking down is ok too.

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Old 02-26-2010, 07:16 AM
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Grunch:

1) Check or bet are both fine. I like a check because players will not put you on a) such a high heart b) such a strong hand. As long as you call down, it'll be fine.

2) Bet more on flop. Keep betting turn.

3) Cbet and double barrel is fine. Checking is okay due to SDV, but tripling would've been "okay" because he has a lot of mid pair type hands on the river that can't take a bet.
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