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Old 02-23-2010, 12:47 PM
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Default 10NL.fold to rivershove?

what do i do on river? villain is running 25/12/af11 over a small sample (90 hands). very aggressive, especially on the river. i'm not sure about the raise on the turn too. is it big enough? thnx...

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Old 02-23-2010, 01:07 PM
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I'd say folding your overpair against a river shove in a non-3bet pot when playing againt an unknown is never wrong. 90 hands is not so many hands, he could be running good or be drunk. If it's the latter, you'll notice it later and get the money anyway...

So just fold and watch him closer...
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Old 02-23-2010, 05:22 PM
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I'd say folding your overpair against a river shove in a non-3bet pot when playing againt an unknown is never wrong. 90 hands is not so many hands, he could be running good or be drunk. If it's the latter, you'll notice it later and get the money anyway...

So just fold and watch him closer...
I very strongly disagree with this, but I would fold on this specific board because many likely straights got there and he has many 2prs in his range. It's not a board where he can have a whiffed draw too often.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:30 AM
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If you're going to raise the turn raise big enough to set up a river shove. I'm not saying that we should automatically shove the river, but a bigger raise gets more value and at least puts the threat of a shove out there.

I also don't mind keeping the pot small and just calling the turn with a plan of calling any river with your bluff catcher. It will be nice to see a showdown to get a better idea of how villain is playing. This line does let him draw cheaper, but we don't even know if he has a draw.
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Old 02-25-2010, 04:46 AM
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Looks like he had QJ (prob with a spade), missed the turn and decided to bluff you (or set up cheaper price for the river), then called ur raise given not that bad odds, and valuebet river in a bluffy way... Smth like that

I'd either flatted his donkbet, which I like less cause the board is drawy and you give him what he needs. Or raise bigger, to 3.5-3.8, and hope for blank river to shove

As played I fold
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:42 AM
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I would flat turn flat river often, or raise turn big enough that i have about 3/4-4/5 pot left on river to set up shove. Pick one, stack off or pot control, don't do it half-half.
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