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Old 03-01-2010, 05:01 PM
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:56 PM
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Any reads on that guy?
Without reads I just call turn and get it in on the river or just ship the turn. There shouldn't be any 3s in his range, so only hands that beat us are TT, QQ+ and 66, but QQ+ and 66 should be unlikely as well. So only 3likely combos that beat us...
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Old 03-01-2010, 08:51 PM
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I didn't have any reads on him. I don't like a call becouse if Q/K/A comes on river I will have worse situation.

I thought, If he had TT+ he wouldn't have limped PF. I knew that he had something like TK, AT or 66 but unfortently it was 66.

Later I saw that this guy likes to call much on the flop to catch something on later streets. Not floating but "hoping" in which he is succesfull.
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Old 03-01-2010, 10:10 PM
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I didn't have any reads on him. I don't like a call becouse if Q/K/A comes on river I will have worse situation.

I thought, If he had TT+ he wouldn't have limped PF. I knew that he had something like TK, AT or 66 but unfortently it was 66.

Later I saw that this guy likes to call much on the flop to catch something on later streets. Not floating but "hoping" in which he is succesfull.
Yes sir I agree with this. There shouldn't be that many 3's in his calling range but he looks like a big fish so we can't be sure. However, even if we include all combos of 3's (from 26 to A6) there are about 78 combos or something like that and if we count T's there's 156. So if he does this move at least 50% of the time with T (or some weird bluff every now and then), we're ahead of his range but I'm not taking pot ods into account so you need even less equity than I gave to ship.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:13 AM
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Why does he look like a big fish? He's got a healthy stack and minraising the turn is not tooo bad.
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From what I have seen this guy is winning player althought sometimes he really does look like a fish (like calling with pocket pairs which are second pair to the board etc.)
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like calling with pocket pairs which are second pair to the board etc.
That's no mistake in my opinion. Of course it depends on the circumstances, but calling a Cbet /w 77 on K53 is really fine.
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I raised from button, 3 called.

Flop (3.2 $):

K47

I make cbet 2$, and he call with 99 OOP (BB). I don't like that call much mostly becouse he is OOP.
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No, I think, it's fine without any special reads on hero.
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I raised from button, 3 called.

Flop (3.2 $):

K47

I make cbet 2$, and he call with 99 OOP (BB). I don't like that call much mostly becouse he is OOP.
that's true. sometimes I call sometimes I RAISE!

I never fold 99 in this spot. sorry man! And guess why...

...why did you cbet? not because you hit the K (sometimes you do of course), no, you did it because you probably think you have to, or you think it's a good board to cbet. Or maybe because eveyone else does it too.

I'm not giving to much credit to BTN cbet. I actually hope you had a K...otherwise this board is pretty bad to cbet...However, I think we could start a new thread right here about good and bad boards to cbet...this is always a big discussion.

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