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Old 07-23-2008, 04:29 AM
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Default going broke here? 3bet preflop QQ

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SB ($134.70)
Hero ($52.50)
Button ($50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q.
Button raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.5, Button calls $3.75.

Flop: ($11.25) 7, 6, J (2 players)
Hero bets $7.5, Button raises to $15, Hero raises to $47 (All-In), Button calls $29.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($102.75) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($102.75) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $100.25

Is everyone going broke here? No reads on opponent. have played on the same table for a while, nothing out of the ordinary to note.
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:36 AM
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I reaaally hate these spots^^
Since we have an overpair and only 4-5times the pot left, going broke should be no big mistake, but I'm worried about his 3bet calling range. If he plays a little loose, it should be ok, but most ppl call the resteals only with monsters on 50NL, I think. But I go broke here, just hoping, that AJ is in his range... ^^
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:32 PM
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3-handed, button vs. BB, I'm going broke here every time.
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Guy has a set a lot here... it's such a dry board, and AJ really doesn't make this play very often... that said, I'm also 3-bet shoving this flop 100bb deep.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:58 PM
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Guy has a set a lot here... it's such a dry board, and AJ really doesn't make this play very often... that said, I'm also 3-bet shoving this flop 100bb deep.
Why are you shoving? If you are sure, that AJ is not in his range you are running about 15% or so against him.
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:23 PM
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Why are you shoving? If you are sure, that AJ is not in his range you are running about 15% or so against him.
Just because someone doesn't raise AJ in this spot doesn't mean that he only raises sets.

Board: 7s Js 6d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.773% 35.77% 00.00% 7083 0.00 { QhQs }
Hand 1: 64.227% 64.23% 00.00% 12717 0.00 { JJ, 77-66, AsKs, 98s, 76s, 54s }
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:50 PM
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How could you assume, that he calls your 3bets /w a sc without any reads and makes a play with a OESD? Do you call a 3bet from a player you don't know /w a sc and do that?
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 82.815% 80.98% 01.84% 20844 472.50 { JJ+, 77-66, 9s8s, 76s, 5s4s }
Hand 1: 17.185% 15.35% 01.84% 3951 472.50 { QhQs }

I make something like a crying move here, cause I'm never folding a QQ overpair with 100BB stacks in a 3bet pot, cause I would get sooo exploitable for that. But I'm not really sure, if we are +++EV in that situation against a player, we don't know. I think, that it is something very marginal to -EV, if we didn't 3bet him before sometimes.
So I hope, that he did something very dumb, like calling /w AJ or something.
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