A short stack FR player.

[puntalara]

OK - You all hate me now as I have played stort stack poker since I began - 2 months playing. I have made some money but it is so boring, I now want to play PROPER poker

I started last night after watching some vids off this site - two hands I played that I have thought about, and I am still unsure if I played them correctly.

I am just starting out learning SH stuff so be kind
Should I have called his cont bet - I had over cards. Then I called him down was this OK

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.02/$0.04
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $5.46
UTG+1: $5.67
CO: $5.30
Button: $11.10
SB: $9.70
Hero: $6.00

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with :js :ts
4 folds, SB raises to $0.16, Hero calls.

Flop: :6c :2s :5h ($0.32, 2 players)
SB bets $0.24, Hero calls.

Turn: :jh ($0.8, 2 players)
SB bets $0.52, Hero calls.

River: :5d ($1.84, 2 players)
SB bets $1.28, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $4.4
SB shows 9d Ad
He showed A9s

Now this hand I thought was I still in front - DID he have a K or was he just doing a normal cont bet - Should I call the flop and then see.


Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.02/$0.04
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.50
Hero: $7.90
CO: $10.45
Button: $9.62
SB: $5.20
BB: $6.06

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with :9s :9c
UTG raises to $0.16, Hero calls, 4 folds.

Flop: :2s :4d :kh ($0.38, 2 players)
UTG bets $0.28, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.28 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $0.38

[TheDeKay]

1st Hand: Raise or fold this flop or call to float him, but do not call, to hit your J or T. After you hit, I think it's ok to call down, cause you have showdown value.

Hand 2: I think, I just raise him here and make it about 0.65$ or so, so you know where you stand. If he calls, I'm done with the hand without any history and reads.

[no eff eks]

First hand you should really just fold on the flop. Once you hit the jack calling down is best though.

Second hand you can fold or call, I prefer a fold. "Raising to see where you stand" is bad like 99% of the time, and it's bad here. You should raise for value or not raise at all. Since you're not in very good shape against an UTG opening range even on this flop I think it's just best to dump the nines.

[TheDeKay]

I think, that calling in the second hand is the worst option. You could do it maybe 10-15% of the time, but with a raise you should fold TT or any Ax-combination or something like QJ or JT. Well, and calling here really smells like a small pp, that will fold to a double barrel most of the time.
Well, and because most people on that limit just play their own hands, see it that way: He just does not have a K often here and if you raise, you know it absolutly for sure, that you are beat, if he calls.

[given1982]

Originally Posted by TheDeKay

I think, that calling in the second hand is the worst option. You could do it maybe 10-15% of the time, but with a raise you should fold TT or any Ax-combination or something like QJ or JT.

Your standard play is to raise an unknown's cbet with 2nd pair? Why do you want to fold out Ax, QJ, or JT?

Originally Posted by TheDeKay

Well, and calling here really smells like a small pp, that will fold to a double barrel most of the time.

I don't think an unknown $.02/$.04 player even thinks about opponents' hand ranges, but if he does, I bet he's not very good at it.

[TheDeKay]

Originally Posted by given1982

Your standard play is to raise an unknown's cbet with 2nd pair? Why do you want to fold out Ax, QJ, or JT?

My standart play is, to raise a second pp on a dry board with a non A overcard against an opponent, who is not thinking about what I'm representing and what my handrange is.
I want to fold Ax, QJ or JT, cause they have 12%-24% equity against my hand, if you do not bet the turn. If you bet the turn, they have about 6%-13%, but why not raise the flop, where you have more fold equity?

Originally Posted by given1982

I don't think an unknown $.02/$.04 player even thinks about opponents' hand ranges, but if he does, I bet he's not very good at it.

That does not keep him from shooting another barrel. As I remeber playing these stakes, people just bluff if you show weakness and calling is weakness for them. So they don't even think, that you could hold a pp, they just bluff.

[puntalara]

thanks guys - very helpful advice