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Old 07-23-2008, 04:53 PM
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Villain is a competent player and is playing a very similar game as me. (not that it makes me competent)

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SB ($32.90)
BB ($25)
UTG ($15.70)
Hero ($28.15)
CO ($19.25)
Button ($3.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T, T.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB raises to $3.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.40.

Flop: ($6.75) 7, 8, 9 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero???

Villain's cbet % is 24.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:23 PM
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I have never met a villain that only cbet 24% that I considered competent. That stat is very compelling, especially if it's over a large number of hands. That means that he really likes his hand in this instance, so I would probably peel and try to hit a 6, T, or J, expecting to stack QQ+ if I do.
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I have never met a villain that only cbet 24% that I considered competent. That stat is very compelling, especially if it's over a large number of hands. That means that he really likes his hand in this instance, so I would probably peel and try to hit a 6, T, or J, expecting to stack QQ+ if I do.
I have to assume that the 24% c-bet stat is just an anomaly and the stats are just from a few hands at this specific table.

Still, it does give you an idea that he doesn't c-bet with air very often, so I agree with peeling once trying to stack his likely overpair.
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If he is a competent player, as you said, I just fold. Would you stack off /w AA on a 789T or 789J board?
If he has a very tight 3betting range, than I call here to setmine preflop or to take a stab at the pot, if he checks to me, cause he only Cbets good hands, if the Cbet% is valid. But I'm done right here. If he is able to get away from AA here, I might take a stab, but not without knowing that.
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If we hit the turn the pot is big enough that he really shouldn't be folding an overpair, especially QQ.
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If we hit the turn the pot is big enough that he really shouldn't be folding an overpair, especially QQ.
What does he beat if the Js comes on the turn?
+ What do you do, if the Jh comes on the turn? AhKh should be in his range!
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:16 PM
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I think he has AhKh or QQ+. Either way, most of the time, you won't find a safe turn.

Raising seems useless because as it was said, he seems to like his hand.
So, you can fold or call. I think you can call to see how he will act on the turn and adjust your decision. Are the implied odds worth it ? Either way, folding stays a safe solution.
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Check behind here and take your free card. IMO, he is setting a trap with his likely overpair. He checks to you hoping you put out a bet and then he can basically just shove to protect his hand on a board he doesn't like very much. Checking behind flop. Re-evaluate turn. But most turns that don't help us, I would ck/f to most bets and just be done with the hand.
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Check behind here and take your free card. IMO, he is setting a trap with his likely overpair. He checks to you hoping you put out a bet and then he can basically just shove to protect his hand on a board he doesn't like very much. Checking behind flop. Re-evaluate turn. But most turns that don't help us, I would ck/f to most bets and just be done with the hand.
I can't check behind here as he bet $5 into me.
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