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Old 08-04-2008, 12:14 PM
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Default AQ facing a push on the river

I had only been at the table for an orbit so nothing to go on other than my cards and feel.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($32.75)
SB ($27.15)
BB ($28)
UTG ($25.05)
Hero ($25.50)
CO ($6)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, Q.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, Button calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($3.65) 8, A, 2 (4 players)
SB bets $3.65, Hero calls $3.65, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($10.95) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.25, SB calls $7.25.

River: ($25.45) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $15.4 (All-In), Hero????????
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Old 08-04-2008, 12:55 PM
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If you don't want to get it in, do not bet the turn.
I call here and think, that we are ahead often enough to justify a call with these odds.
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Old 08-04-2008, 01:02 PM
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I check back the turn, hoping to get to showdown as cheaply as possible after villain donks full pot into 3 players. The river discounts 88 as a possibility and makes 22 the only hand you're really worried about (I guess he could show up with 3c5c sometimes). I think this is a call.
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:58 AM
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I believe this is a typical case where you should keep the pot small with small hands. You have TP with very decent kicker and you are building a big pot by betting the turn. I'd check the turn and call any "normal-sized" bet on the river.
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:55 AM
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The river discounts 88 as a possibility and makes 22 the only hand you're really worried about (I guess he could show up with 3c5c sometimes). I think this is a call.
Ac8c imo...

I really don't mind the turn bet at all. When randoms donk the flop for pot then check the turn it usually means a draw. The fact that he doesn't check-raise the turn is also indicative of a draw and not a set. Betting the turn is really your only way to get money out of a draw, so I don't see why it's so bad.

As for this river... this sucks a lot, but I really would want to lay it down... I'm pretty torn though and I have a feeling I'd actually call if I was playing the hand.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:09 AM
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Ac8c imo...
Ac is on board. I guess maybe Ad8d

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I really don't mind the turn bet at all. When randoms donk the flop for pot then check the turn it usually means a draw. The fact that he doesn't check-raise the turn is also indicative of a draw and not a set. Betting the turn is really your only way to get money out of a draw, so I don't see why it's so bad.
I feel like our turn bet will get c/r a lot in this situation, and after we pick up the NFD, I don't think we can fold, even though we wouldn't be in great shape.
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Turn check-raise is a monster like every time... I think I could fold this without to much difficulty if we weren't getting 5-1 (not sure if we would be or not because I'm too lazy to check).

Yeah, didn't notice the Ac. For some reason I was thinking the flop was 8xQcXc... Let's go with Kc8c since that's the kind of hand I was actually thinking he had (middle pair + flush draw).
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