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Old 08-09-2008, 02:40 PM
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Default 50NL JJ facing a 3bet from an aggro

villian is been 3betting alot and his stats are 30/30/4 over 70 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($32.97)
CO ($17.09)
Button ($39.71)
SB ($25)
BB ($25.35)
Hero ($23.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J.
Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, Button raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero ??

do we call hope to hit a set? or 4bet and call a shove?
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Old 08-09-2008, 02:54 PM
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Against an aggro player you can call and put it in as an overpair.
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Old 08-09-2008, 05:02 PM
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thanks for your replay.
i 4bet him and he shoves and i called and he shows KK and won.

but i was wondering if its good to 4bet an aggro in this spot?
and what do we do if we called his 3bet and the flop was QXX? or KXX? and he bets pot
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I'm more than happy to 4-bet and call a shove against a guy with those stats. Calling and hoping to flop an overpair seems too nitty to me.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:01 AM
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At the 10NL and 25NL limits:

3-betting preflop = AA, KK, QQ and at the lowest of their range JJ and AK

so if you 4-bet , he will most likely shove and you almost have to call for a coinflip (in the very best situation) with JJ.

I even tend to fold JJ on the flop after a 3-bet preflop and the board comes
259r
because you are probalby be looking at AA, KK or QQ

I HATE JJ
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Old 08-11-2008, 08:57 AM
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At the 10NL and 25NL limits:

3-betting preflop = AA, KK, QQ and at the lowest of their range JJ and AK

so if you 4-bet , he will most likely shove and you almost have to call for a coinflip (in the very best situation) with JJ.

I even tend to fold JJ on the flop after a 3-bet preflop and the board comes
259r
because you are probalby be looking at AA, KK or QQ

I HATE JJ
This is too nitty because villain is not an unknown at 10NL or 25NL. OP said that villain is 30/30/4 and 3bets a lot. I think that 4betting and snapping it off and calling the 3bet and shoving over cbets with overpairs are both fine.
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