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Old 08-18-2008, 06:58 PM
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I believe I played this hand horribly. Villain was playing 38/17 but that was only for 30 hands.
I didnt raise preflop because I am a donkey who thinks that whenever I 3-bet preflop with 1010, the flop will come QQA and ends up with me cursing at my screen. How would you have played it. I didnt like the turn card but he bets so small , so I called and after the meaningless river he bets big?

Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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UTG: $49.30
CO: $26.95
BTN: $37.95
SB: $22.50
Hero (BB): $24.30

Pre-Flop: T:spade: T:heart: dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.85, SB folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 9:diamond: 4:club: 7:diamond: (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $2

Turn: ($7.80) J:diamond: (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($13.80) 3:spade: (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9, Hero folds

Results: $13.80 Pot
BTN showed and WON $22.15 (+$15.30 NET)


ps: when looking at my hand now , my flop raise was probalby also not high enough as he is getting 1:3 to call. (2$ in a 5,80$ pot)
ps: I am using holdem manager hand history but lately cant convert anymore at flopturnriver???

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Old 08-18-2008, 07:23 PM
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I call /w TT from the blinds, if he Cbets very often, so I have no problem with a call here.
Just make your 3bet a little larger and fire again on the turn, so you won't get pushed off your hand or go for a c/c line, if he is very aggro.
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:14 PM
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BTN showed and WON $22.15 (+$15.30 NET)

button showed what?
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:30 PM
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I have to disagree with DeKay on this one. I think with the 38/17 over 30 hands (he has played 11 hands and I suspect the raises have been IP for the most part) it looks a lot like a steal attempt to me (i know he can show up with hand though) and one that should be reraised since you have a fairly strong hand headsup. Preflop the only hands beating you are JJ+

The reraise achieves three things here I think. First it sends a message of 'I am not going to just let you steal my blinds', second it announces that you have something that you are willing to put more money in with, and third it gives you the initiative on the flop. Now he may have still beaten you but I think the reraise and a lead on the flop will give him pause for concern if he is playing a hand that isn't a JJ+ pair for example (and also not 44, 77 or 99)
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:41 PM
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I am using holdem manager hand history but lately cant convert anymore at flopturnriver???
Didn't work for me either until I tried exporting each hand to hard drive and copy/pasted into the converter.
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:35 AM
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insta 3bet pre huge leak not to. once you 3bet you lead the flop and take it down 90%+ of the time
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:47 AM
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To me i think the correct line would be to bet/fold a sort of blocking bet on the turn. If your going to call $3 anyway might as well make it $4 and might as well fire it yourself with the intention of shutting down on the river and folding to a reraise. Gives your opponent a chance to fold a better hand.

But it is quite a difficult decision to make when your actually in the hand. easy to say afterwards
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Old 08-19-2008, 07:06 AM
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I have to disagree with DeKay on this one. I think with the 38/17 over 30 hands (he has played 11 hands and I suspect the raises have been IP for the most part) it looks a lot like a steal attempt to me (i know he can show up with hand though) and one that should be reraised since you have a fairly strong hand headsup. Preflop the only hands beating you are JJ+

The reraise achieves three things here I think. First it sends a message of 'I am not going to just let you steal my blinds', second it announces that you have something that you are willing to put more money in with, and third it gives you the initiative on the flop. Now he may have still beaten you but I think the reraise and a lead on the flop will give him pause for concern if he is playing a hand that isn't a JJ+ pair for example (and also not 44, 77 or 99)
Well, it really depends on his calling range. If he flats us with about anything, we can 3bet here, but if his calling range is very tight, I like calling better, if he Cbets very often, so we get more value from our hand.
If you go for a check-raise you announce: "If you think, you can Cbet me the whole time, you are very wrong". You tell him, that you hit the flop very good and you have the initiative on the turn. And if he has something like J9, 98 he is in a really crappy spot and ppl in crappy spots make mistakes.
And once you crai and lead on the turn, you take it down 90% of the time :P

If he has a tight calling range, I 3bet him /w sc and smaller pp, but with hands like JJ, TT, 99 I try to get value from the worse hands of his range.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:40 AM
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3bet pre as it looks like a steal, as button are betting with a wide range and u show him aggression by 3betting in the blinds. If he reraise, fold pre. If he call, lead flop for once more and fold to resistant......This is only if he steal a lot. If he doesnt steal a lot on the button, call and if u miss flop, dont put in more money.
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