QQ, valuebet river?

[mxrider]

villain is loose passive pf and a station post.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($35.05)
Hero ($27.85)
MP ($15.95)
Button ($19.70)
SB ($16.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q.
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) 4, 8, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, Button calls $1.75.

Turn: ($5.85) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, Button calls $3.75.

River: ($13.35) 3 (2 players)
Hero?

[Trikkur]

I think you have 2 options on the river.

Bet 1/2 pot fold to a shove since he's never shoving worse.
Shove yourself for value.

These might seem odd that you can shove for value, but also fold to a shove from him, but his range changes greatly between those 2 options. The more you think he likes to make big call downs or play an 8 faster, I would shove. He will actually call with a lot worse than you imagine.

[Qgel]

loose passive and a station is the same thing isn't it ?

Anyway, I see no reason not to valuebet this river. Something like 1/2 to 2/3 pot.
If he raises your river bet though he has a boat every time, but there are quite a few worse hands in his range that will call here. Any 4, any PP that is not a set and possibly even A high - stations can make some incredible hero calls.

Edit: Shoving for value? Sounds interesting, but doesn't that fold out a ton of his range ? I mean, even stations have their limits, right? I don't think he would call with anything worse than an overpair facing a shove and that's only 3 hands. Care to comment on this Trikkur?

[given1982]

Villain started the hand short and only has around a PSB left. If you bet 1/2 pot and he shoves over, you'll be getting 5:1 on a call--I couldn't fold there. Just shove.

[Trikkur]

Even getting 5:1 it's still a fold if he shoves to our 1/2 pot bet on river. It's still 28%ish of a full stack and it's never with a worst hand. People lose a lot of money in these spots by calling when they are good 0% of the time. Though just shoving for value is what I would lean towards here.

[Navie]

overbet and call shove on turn.

[ahog012]

bet pot/shove river.

[loltrickedu]

no you cant be calling off his stack on the river thats terrible.

[given1982]

Meh, it may not quite be +ev, but I don't think it's terrible. You only have to be good 16% of the time, and lots of people think that any ace is the nuts on a double-paired board.

[Trikkur]

Yes, but they aren't shoving an Ace is the difference. They may call with a naked ace, but if he shoves on the river his range is greatly different than his calling range. It pretty much goes to 98%+ boats and probably only top boats.