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Old 03-28-2009, 10:59 PM
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Is playing a double suited hand, doesnt matter what the cards are an decent starting hand? Or should you just fold these hands
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Yeah, it matters. The more connected, the better. This is a game of nuts since every player has 2 hands.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:03 AM
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You don't want to play every doublesuited hand, just because the only flushes you REALLY want to hit are the nut ones. For example if you have 9 high flush, you are almost never getting value from worse. But yes, if you got hand like 4569ds being doublesuited makes it very playable in position even with the 2 card gap in the worse (upper) end.

If you something like AK89ds with A suit and K suit, I would probably play it from any position, but if it was 4-suited I probably end up folding from EP. I really hate playing OOP in Omaha.

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Yeah, it matters. The more connected, the better. This is a game of nuts since every player has 2 hands.
Actually everyone has 6 different 2 card hands in omaha.

For example if you have 2345 you can make it 23, 24, 25, 34, 35 or 45.
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You don't want to play every doublesuited hand, just because the only flushes you REALLY want to hit are the nut ones. For example if you have 9 high flush, you are almost never getting value from worse. But yes, if you got hand like 4569ds being doublesuited makes it very playable in position even with the 2 card gap in the worse (upper) end.

If you something like AK89ds with A suit and K suit, I would probably play it from any position, but if it was 4-suited I probably end up folding from EP. I really hate playing OOP in Omaha.



Actually everyone has 6 different 2 card hands in omaha.

For example if you have 2345 you can make it 23, 24, 25, 34, 35 or 45.
Yeah, sorry.
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Old 03-29-2009, 03:21 PM
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So playing double suited cards that are not the nuts is ok? or should i only play the double suited hands with an ace.
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So playing double suited cards that are not the nuts is ok? or should i only play the double suited hands with an ace.
Well, you should always give a little value to the "doublesuitedness" but it's not the most important thing... It's maybe something like suited vs. nonsuited in NL.
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Crappy double suited hands are a huge leak... you make lots of second best hands and very few nutted hands. This leads to very little implied odds and fairly huge reverse implied odds (depending how deep you're playing obv).

Generally, the more connected the cards the better, and the higher the cards the better.

It's also important to remember that these hands go down drastically in value as you get deeper. A hand like Q854ds is complete trash when more than 50bb deep, but when you're playing with very shallow stacks against your typical group of calling station opponents these kinds of hands actually become playable.

I still suck kinda hard at omaha so take my advice with a grain of salt, but lately I've been winning at a nice clip so maybe I'm getting better (15ptbb over 15k hands... but yeah, means very little and I'm still down lifetime in PLO).
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