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Old 07-19-2009, 05:31 PM
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Sorry if this isn't super interesting.. it was the hand I was most unsure about from today. Would you raise preflop (very limpy table, and my thinking was a. this isn't a particularly strong hand and b. I really want as many hangers on as I can because if I hit either hi or lo I'll likely have the nuts so the more the merrier). More importantly, would you drive the four-flush, backdoor nut low draw on the flop? I think there's probably some maths that'll show whether it's worthwhile getting 3 or 4 more small bets in the pot?

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SB ($1.74)
BB ($2)
UTG ($1.50)
UTG+1 ($1.58)
UTG+2 ($2.52)
Hero ($5)
MP2 ($2.60)
MP3 ($4.75)
CO ($3.30)
BTN ($3.60)

Dealt to Hero 2:spade: A:diamond: J:diamond: 6:spade:

UTG calls $0.05, fold, UTG+2 calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.03, BB checks

FLOP ($0.25) 9:diamond: Q:diamond: 8:spade:

SB checks, BB bets $0.05, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, SB calls $0.05

TURN ($0.45) 9:diamond: Q:diamond: 8:spade: T:diamond:

SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.10, SB calls $0.10, BB calls $0.10, UTG+2 folds

RIVER ($0.75) 9:diamond: Q:diamond: 8:spade: T:diamond: 4:heart:

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.10, SB calls $0.10, BB folds


Also, random question - normally I play 5NL so I'm used to having say $10 or so at stake in a session - what level limit O8 would you play in my shoes? Today I played 5c/10c and I never really felt like much more than $1 was at stake. Also, I didn't feel at risk of losing at all, such was the level of the competition, so I figure I can keep on moving up til I find my place.

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Old 07-19-2009, 07:01 PM
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You have the nuts? So value bet!! Make it about pot on turn and river.

Edit: Didn't see it's limit xD
Is there a way to play the turn fast other than betting?
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:56 AM
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Nope, once I'd made my hand I played it as fast as was possible, so I was wondering if I could earn more by betting before I made it. Thinking about it mathematically, I figure I have 9 diamond outs twice, but I'd have to discount that a little - if it's an ace or a two and another low card comes out I may only get half the pot and if it's otherwise low I could win only 3/4s.. so maybe I have the equivalent of ~6 outs to scoop so about [edit to correct terribly wrong maths!] 25% winning chance on the flop. So I need to be able to get a 4x return on any speculative bet, and so I guess the answer is no there aren't quite enough players left in the pot for a bet on the flop to be profitable? [Edit2] I dunno.. maybe I'm being too pessimistic calling it 6 outs.. any two non-flush non-A-2 low cards give me some winnings.. if we could call it 7 or 8 then I'd just barely have the odds to raise.. I'm just thinking out loud at this point..
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:13 AM
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It takes some real nuts to make a strong move here. However, if you win it will be a great profit for you. It is totally up to you, and the amount you are willing to loose and win.
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:31 PM
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It is a little difficult.
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