some hands

[DerrickAreI]

Here are some hands from my first real session playing 1c 2c plo. I am as close to a total beginner at this game as you can get, though I have played a bunch of holdem. Any critique would be awesome.

The first hand is a spot I tend to get myself into a lot. Do I have any equity here or does his line say i'm beat?
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) -
Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($1.79)
UTG ($2.08)
MP ($3.47)
Hero (CO) ($2.16)
Button ($1.50)
SB ($2.53)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6, A, K, 7
UTG calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.06, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.04, MP calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.21) 7, 5, 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.21) 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, 1 fold

River: ($0.45) J (2 players)
MP bets $0.22, Hero calls $0.22

Total pot: $0.89 | Rake: $0.05

My question on this hand is should I have been scared of this board given my hand. I think I was looking for everything that could possibly beat me, but not going for value.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($2.19)
UTG ($2.43)
Button ($3.82)
SB ($2.22)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K, A, 7
1 fold, Button calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, Hero bets $0.08, Button calls $0.06, SB calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.24) A, 10, 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.54) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.54) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $0.54 | Rake: $0.03



nitty fold? I did it because of how quick he raised. I bet and it was next to instant that he bumped it up...took me a while to lay it down. Don't know how I feel about it.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($2.98)
BB ($0.68)
UTG ($1.94)
Hero (MP) ($2)
Button ($1.47)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9, 8, 5, 10
1 fold, Hero bets $0.07, Button calls $0.07, 1 fold, BB calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.22) 8, K, 8 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.15, Button raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.52 | Rake: $0.03

can I put him on queens full here? I think calling the flop was ok, but the turn I think the fold is right. I find myself narrowing peoples ranges down to the nuts or nothing..maybe I did that here?



Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($0.44)
Hero (MP) ($2.24)
Button ($6.44)
SB ($3.09)
BB ($0.78)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, A, A, 2
1 fold, Hero bets $0.07, 2 folds, BB calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.15) Q, 3, 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.08, BB raises to $0.18, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.51) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $0.51, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.51 | Rake: $0.03


last one.

my turn check was a missclick or I would have bet it. Given how they played the hand so passively am I right to call on the end?





Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($4.89)
BB ($2.15)
Hero (UTG) ($2.72)
Button ($3.59)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10, 8, 10, 5
Hero bets $0.07, Button calls $0.07, SB calls $0.06, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.23) J, A, A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($0.23) 10 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

River: ($0.23) 6 (3 players)
SB bets $0.23, Hero calls $0.23, Button raises to $1, SB calls $0.77, Hero calls $0.77

Total pot: $3.23 | Rake: $0.21


Wow lot of hands.

[zomfgwtfbbq]

Hand 1, I don't really like to play A K 6 7o like that. UTG and MP both call the blinds, like their range is stronger than yours. Preflop wise that hand will put you into a lot of trouble.

Depending on your image and the table, at most I'll call and not raise. Folding is fine, your hand is so marginal you'll avoid tough spots like these.

On the flop you flop top pair on a super drawy board. You have like a gutshot and not even to the nuts, and only 3 clean outs.

Flop is check/fold for sure. On the turn, I MAY call and hope that you fill up, and on the river its a clear fold. You didn't make your boat, you fold there.

Hand 2, Preflop is fine, flop is to pot it. It's super drawy and you just want to take it down now. Why are you giving him odds to call with whatever straight draw hands? Turn is still pretty good for you, you still have a ton of outs even if he has a straight. I'll bet here and hope to take it down, and fold to any raise. As played I think you may have missed some value from 2 pair type hands or undersets.

Bet like 1/3 on the river and fold to any raise. Need to get value.

Hand 3, you may be crushed, bet folding is a bit nitty imho, I'm thinking even at these limits guys will re-raise with KKxx type hands. I don't know bout you, but I don't mind the fold. Generally if you picked up his timing tell and he only insta-raises with the best hands, then fold. You aren't realyl drawing to the nuts as such. So fold is ok.

Hand 4, if you called the raise on the flop, why do you fold on the turn? The 9 doesn't realyl change the board much. Flop I would 3-bet him and fold to a 4-bet. But if you plan to call him on the flop, call him on the turn and river.

Unless he has a 3 on the flop, he's folding to just about every 3 bet there is.

Hand 5 you played it fine till the river, calling is fine, just fold once Button pops it and SB calls. Never liked calling in this spot with 2 guys s ointerested in the hand like this and you not having the nuts vs 3 people.

Sorry if my explanations are bad, Padawan just buzzed me about this lol.

[DerrickAreI]

Originally Posted by zomfgwtfbbq

Hand 1, I don't really like to play A K 6 7o like that. UTG and MP both call the blinds, like their range is stronger than yours. Preflop wise that hand will put you into a lot of trouble.

Depending on your image and the table, at most I'll call and not raise. Folding is fine, your hand is so marginal you'll avoid tough spots like these.

On the flop you flop top pair on a super drawy board. You have like a gutshot and not even to the nuts, and only 3 clean outs.

Flop is check/fold for sure. On the turn, I MAY call and hope that you fill up, and on the river its a clear fold. You didn't make your boat, you fold there.

Hand 2, Preflop is fine, flop is to pot it. It's super drawy and you just want to take it down now. Why are you giving him odds to call with whatever straight draw hands? Turn is still pretty good for you, you still have a ton of outs even if he has a straight. I'll bet here and hope to take it down, and fold to any raise. As played I think you may have missed some value from 2 pair type hands or undersets.

Bet like 1/3 on the river and fold to any raise. Need to get value.

Hand 3, you may be crushed, bet folding is a bit nitty imho, I'm thinking even at these limits guys will re-raise with KKxx type hands. I don't know bout you, but I don't mind the fold. Generally if you picked up his timing tell and he only insta-raises with the best hands, then fold. You aren't realyl drawing to the nuts as such. So fold is ok.

Hand 4, if you called the raise on the flop, why do you fold on the turn? The 9 doesn't realyl change the board much. Flop I would 3-bet him and fold to a 4-bet. But if you plan to call him on the flop, call him on the turn and river.

Unless he has a 3 on the flop, he's folding to just about every 3 bet there is.

Hand 5 you played it fine till the river, calling is fine, just fold once Button pops it and SB calls. Never liked calling in this spot with 2 guys s ointerested in the hand like this and you not having the nuts vs 3 people.

Sorry if my explanations are bad, Padawan just buzzed me about this lol.

Your explanations were good. I got a lot of insight. Looking back I definately see my mistakes.

Hand one- I see the fold now.

Hand two- you aren't the first to tell me my bet sizing was weak, I will work on this. Also, when it comes to getting value I fail. Are you saying the best way to do this is just bet until he raises and don't be scared of a hand like the straight?

Hand 4- yes my play is very bad I can't see how I found the fold after the flop play.

[zomfgwtfbbq]

Originally Posted by DerrickAreI

Your explanations were good. I got a lot of insight. Looking back I definately see my mistakes.

Hand one- I see the fold now.

Hand two- you aren't the first to tell me my bet sizing was weak, I will work on this. Also, when it comes to getting value I fail. Are you saying the best way to do this is just bet until he raises and don't be scared of a hand like the straight?

Hand 4- yes my play is very bad I can't see how I found the fold after the flop play.

Well, generally you have the 'effective nuts' a lot of the times, people will generaly raise with like the nuts to get value, theres something with PLO that people just won't raise without the nuts or a huge draw like topset + NFD or even at the very bottom of their range at least middle set on a dry board.

Big hands = big pots. This applies so much more than in NLHE.

But even in like raised pots on the river if you ar rivered, if you have like a better than marginal hand and you're getting like 4 : 1 on your money, sometimes you can just call. But this is board dependent like if straights /flushs are present dont call with top set.

Just fold.

[urbansprawler]

Hand 1: After flop is checked through, I like betting turn. Thoughts?

[DerrickAreI]

Originally Posted by urbansprawler

Hand 1: After flop is checked through, I like betting turn. Thoughts?

this might be fine, but we are bet into first. do you mean a raise?

[Padawan]

Hand 1 - Do not raise this hand when 2 ppl limp b4 you, it doesnt play well enough 3 way. Turn call is fine and for the price on the river I think its an ok call, I just dont see us being good here very often against even an ok opponent.

Hand 2 - Good raise for value pre, I would like to mention however that if this was a raise a call and then action to you that these are AA's you may want to just call with instead of inflating a pot OOP with unsuited and unconnected Aces.

Otherwise Bet flop more preferably pot, Bet turn about 2/3 for value and fold to a raise.

Hand 3 - I dont know why he would raise if he had KK here, he has the nuts so I would put him on some sort of 8 or the NFD semi bluffing the paired board cuz its unlikely you hit it.
Honestly I think we can peel a card here, and I would probably lead any non club turn. I really wish we had some sort of read on this player (tight/Loose/Aggressive, etc) This could help in our decision alot.

Hand 4 - He is short and we have 2 pr, with the Q blocker you have in your hand I might say he has a 3 or he could have air. Im not folding here, and if I lose to a 3 oh well fine. Weak raise on flop that you just call, which opens him up to pot knowing you will probably fold. I think its an ok fold and an ok spot to call.

Hand 5 - With the pot bet, u call, and then a raise.. This = AJ
So many hands beat you only have 2 hands beat. Idiot with a flush and 66's full. I dont think anyone raises 66's full here or a flush so looks like you are beat. Save yourself the money.

[john777]

I love to play omaha.

[zomfgwtfbbq]

Originally Posted by john777

I love to play omaha.

For sure!