unbelievable frustration

[quadfive]

over the last 15k hands i've been a break even player, taking stabs @ 25nL & getting sent back to 10nL on Pokerstars multiple times.. Today within 200 hands I was sent back to 10nL aGAIN!!!

These 2 hands happened @ the EXACT same time

PokerStars Game #21808926556: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/11/06 14:07:59 ET
Table 'Ampella II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: GHQ.Slay3r ($28.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Csabeeka ($34.55 in chips)
Seat 3: timmybuys ($29.20 in chips)
Seat 6: quadfive ($27.15 in chips)
timmybuys: posts small blind $0.10
quadfive: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to quadfive [7c 7s]
GHQ.Slay3r: folds
Csabeeka: folds
timmybuys: raises $0.50 to $0.75
quadfive: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [6d 6c 7h]
timmybuys: bets $1
MackenTosH joins the table at seat #4
quadfive: calls $1
*** TURN *** [6d 6c 7h] [6s]
timmybuys: bets $2
quadfive: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [6d 6c 7h 6s] [Ad]
timmybuys: bets $3.50
quadfive: raises $19.90 to $23.40 and is all-in
cédric1978 joins the table at seat #5
timmybuys: calls $19.90
*** SHOW DOWN ***
quadfive: shows [7c 7s] (a full house, Sevens full of Sixes)
timmybuys: shows [Ac As] (a full house, Aces full of Sixes)
timmybuys collected $52.30 from pot

PokerStars Game #21808999234: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/11/06 14:10:44 ET
Table 'Loreley V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Ville72 ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 2: MAQAS ($10.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Dawme ($21.60 in chips)
Seat 5: quadfive ($26.60 in chips)
Seat 6: SwampDawg71 ($25.65 in chips)
SwampDawg71: posts small blind $0.10
Ville72: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to quadfive [Ah Ks]
MAQAS: folds
Dawme: folds
quadfive: raises $0.50 to $0.75
SwampDawg71: raises $1.50 to $2.25
Ville72: folds
quadfive: raises $2.75 to $5
SwampDawg71: raises $20.65 to $25.65 and is all-in
quadfive: calls $20.65
*** FLOP *** [Td 2h 8c]
*** TURN *** [Td 2h 8c] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [Td 2h 8c 3c] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SwampDawg71: shows [9s Ts] (a pair of Tens)
quadfive: mucks hand
SwampDawg71 collected $49.55 from pot



I hate to complain but seriously...

[given1982]

Raise the turn in the 1st hand.

[quadfive]

still plays the same, he's not folding AA & im losing on river

[quadfive]

usually when this happens i cash out & wait a week to cool off but i realize this makes it impossible to build a bankroll decently, so im gunna grind past this.. gL me

[ThatDeviant]

Originally Posted by quadfive

still plays the same, he's not folding AA & im losing on river

I feel your pain but this is the type of results orientated thinking you need to get out of your head.

[given1982]

Originally Posted by quadfive

still plays the same, he's not folding AA & im losing on river

I'm not sure that's the way the random number generator at Stars actually works.

[quadfive]

Yeah, i shouldnt think about results? I'm pretty sure that's why anyone plays... we play to win just like any other game... not being results/winning minded is like expecting to lose..

[given1982]

Originally Posted by quadfive

Yeah, i shouldnt think about results? I'm pretty sure that's why anyone plays... we play to win just like any other game... not being results/winning minded is like expecting to lose..

You shouldn't think that just because in some situations, a bad play will lead to the same result as a good play, it doesn't matter whether you make a good play or a bad play.

[Shenny]

Your in between nl10 and nl25. ThatDeviant is right. Your not playing to win right now, your playing to improve. You have to learn to lose before you can step up.

Coolers happen to everyone, that's variance. Stay mentally strong and don't let it get to you. Ask yourself questions after the more iffy hands, and be honest: Did he represent what he showed? was shoving the best option? was calling the best option? what street could have been improved upon? did I maximize value?

Even winning hands are often played wrong. You have the determination, no doubt you'll be a reg at nl25 in no time.

[ThatDeviant]

Originally Posted by quadfive

Yeah, i shouldnt think about results? I'm pretty sure that's why anyone plays... we play to win just like any other game... not being results/winning minded is like expecting to lose..

You're thinking about it backwards.

You should be striving to make the correct decision at each street. On the turn you should have raised and given him the chance to get his money in behind. You shouldn't be playing to 'win monies!' because that comes as a package deal with making long term +ev decisions.

Yes, you would have lost the hand either way, but thats highly irrelevent to the correct decision on the turn.