Three BI's in Three Hands!

[ThatDeviant]

Oh wait.

villain = manaic 3better, squeezer, 4better you name it.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 4591
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UTG: $31.05
Hero (MP): $25.35
CO: $25.00
BTN: $38.85
SB: $34.75
BB: $15.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with T T
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, 1 fold, SB raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, SB raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $25.35 all in, SB calls $12.85

Flop: ($51.80) Q 2 7

Turn: ($51.80) 2

River: ($51.80) 3

Final Pot: $51.80
Hero shows T T (two pair, Tens and Twos)
SB shows A A (two pair, Aces and Twos)
SB wins $49.25
(Rake: $2.55)

Next hand - YES KINGS.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 4597
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SB: $20.55
BB: $116.80
Hero (UTG): $26.50
MP: $11.00
CO: $40.30
BTN: $16.45

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.85, 3 folds, SB raises to $2.70, 1 fold, Hero raises to $8.25, SB raises to $20.55 all in, Hero calls $12.30

Flop: ($41.35) Q 4 8

Turn: ($41.35) A

River: ($41.35) J

Final Pot: $41.35
SB shows A K (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows K K (a pair of Kings)
SB wins $39.30
(Rake: $2.05)

Oh well, standard.

This time another maniac. Turns the nuts, sweet. Donk shove SHIP THE MONEY.

Shiiiiit.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 4599
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SB: $16.45
BB: $25.00
UTG: $40.65
MP: $38.05
CO: $53.10
Hero (BTN): $25.05

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T Q
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, MP calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.60) J 9 7 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.75, MP calls $2.75

Turn: ($9.10) 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $5, MP calls $5

River: ($19.10) 7 (2 players)
MP bets $19.10, Hero calls $15.80 all in

Final Pot: $50.70
MP shows 7 9 (a full house, Sevens full of Nines)
Hero mucks T Q
MP wins $48.20
(Rake: $2.50)

Nice solid session if you ask me.

[postoakpoker]

heh ouch. it happens. I had a session a while ago where I got KK 3 out of the first 5 hands. of course no action, but that's okay. yay variance

[ShoveOrFold]

I don't think stacking off in the first hand can be +ev unless villain really is THAT bad. When you got it in, you had to know you were beat. And when he min5bets, i just say aw shit, he has aces.

KK hand is pretty standard. At least he didnt suck out with an underpair. And at least it wasn't for full stacks (:.

3rd hand is pretty unfortunate. However, I'm usually betting bigger on the turn.

[ThatDeviant]

Originally Posted by ShoveOrFold

I don't think stacking off in the first hand can be +ev unless villain really is THAT bad. When you got it in, you had to know you were beat. And when he min5bets, i just say aw shit, he has aces.

3rd hand is pretty unfortunate. However, I'm usually betting bigger on the turn.

First hand, he was THAT bad. Stacked off with A9, 56o and Q8s in that same session.

Second hand, bet sizing was to have a good bet size left for the river and to let him bluff (he liked that).

[dansiek]

not much u can do when a maniac actually turns up with the goods.

[nawhead]

Who was maniac 3 and 4betting with Q8s? You? Or some other guy? Did he just sit down? Or had he already tabled spewy 3 and 4bets but continued to do it?

There are very few true maniacs I've ever seen at FTP microstakes. I can count them on one hand. Some may try to muscle a table randomly then calm down, but true maniacs don't bother with 3 and 4 bets, they just raise POOOSH every single hand. I think you might have seen a regular on a bender.

And Hand 1 I'm not willing to push TT vs someone who I suspect sorta knows what's happening (of what his image looks like) 4 betting me like he wants to get it allin unless he's done this literally every hand he's in a pot with someone. Which would really be crazy, and if that's the case, forget TT, Ax or pocket 77's is good enough here.

Hand 2 is just a cooler.

Hand 3 can be played much better I think. Just put him allin on that turn. If he's got a good piece, like decent top, he'll call. If he's got a good draw he'll call if he wants to gamble, he'll fold otherwise and you pick up a decent pot. But if you think he is drawing, and you want him to call the turn, you can't call that river push. Put him allin on the turn or let him draw cheap and fold to hard aggression on a river like that. It's one or the other. You can't have it both ways. There's a 1 liner to a straight on the turn. Don't automatically assume every "maniac" is also a noob.

Most full stacked "maniacs" and "idiots" on FTP microstakes are in my opinion longtime microstakes regulars who just don't have discipline or winning strategies. Breakeven players IOW, not true donators. But they know enough to make so-so EV plays like c/c with 2 pair when the turn looks bad then donk river push when they fill up.

[ThatDeviant]

No strat in BBV.

(although given my reads on the player I think overbet shoving the turn is pretty horrible when im looking to draw value with the nuts)

(I also think folding to his river shove is pretty horrible too in hand 3)

No strat in BBV.

[nawhead]

Oh sorry...

Frickin donkeys! Well, that's poker for ya!