Getting annoyed by FTP

[zomfgwtfbbq]

As of writing this I am on tilt-central. FML, sure I played poorly in some spots and losing like a bazillion other hands. I keep getitng my money getting in good only to get donked so badly away. Or like AA vs dry flop and get shat on by a guy who called my PF raise with 85 of all hands and getting 8 8 3 or something on the flop <-- DO YOU FOLD???


AA vs AK ALL IN PF TWICE (Can't ever hold up, they do a joe hachem and hit a striaght on the turn or the river)
Slowplyaed my set only for a guy to hit a bigger set

AQ TPTK vs KT (OESD) he hits his King on the turn.
Top Pair inside straight draw on the flop, hit straight on river only to get crushed by a hidden set > fullhouse
TPGK value towned vs a set
Overpair on a 2 5 4 flop, and get it all in vs 22 and KK FML

Imma gonna post a whole lot of histories somewhere and see if you guys would've played it differently. I need a cooler, getting fed up. Am down 10 BI at NL10 <--- such a joke and if wasn't for bonus whoring I think I'd quit right now and withdraw my roll.

I know some spots are coolers and some I played it so bad, but we are all 20/20 in hindsight. So lmk

[Aji89]

Well just think logically I guess. You're getting it in good and losing which means someone else is getting it in bad and winning. So take a leaf out of their book and start getting it in bad.

[wolfzep]

never slowplay at 10NL imo....

[nuvan]

Hang in there, the coin flips both ways (can't remember the proper phrase).

[wbry]

I have had same experience at FT. I mostly have played at Poker stars but wanted to get rakeback and bonus so started at FTP like month or so ago. Out of whole month I put in $400 went straight down to $310. I usually played 5nl and 10nl on stars so that is what I played on FTP even trying the 2nl there and just ran in to crap after crap. On stars i would have a day or two of bad runs but on FTP they have ran for days on end. I am beginning to think that the site is fixed (must not be though cuz some winners from there post here) though on videos cant recall anyone really winning during it on here. Then I ran back up to $455 with rakeback and $60 in bonus released and past 4 sessions am back down to $391.

Last four BI lost were

1.
me A8
he 56s
board 47AA8 was 4spades on board i bet river he reraise I shove he had straight flush
2.
me AK
he 55
board AK5 flp we get all in on flop he hit set.ever folding?
3.
me AA i raise pf 6x because 3 limpers
he K9s
board KQ9 he shove $4.50 on flop two pair I call
4.
After my AA got cracked in example 3 above few hand later at different table I g0t K9 and was on tilt so I decide to play it as usually I wouldnt
Me K9o
He A2
board AK9 he bet I call turn 2 I check he bet all in I call he win with two pair

Also I have lost several buy ins against people getting sets when I have AA or KK or I flop two pair.

I am getting very frustrated. I play poker to have fun as I have a real job. A lot of times I ask why I continue playing when it seems to be more stessful than fun even though I am addicted to playing (not sure why guess I love stress). I will continue later as getting late.

[Spinage]

its not FTP its just poker lol, right now I am having my biggest 'downswing' ever at Pokerstars, but trying to pull back. I'm not playing bad though which I am proud of... about a week now it's been set over set, AAvs my KK so many times... I really feel like KK is not profitable to get in pre... but i do it anyway coz thats what we are told.

also stupid shit like ppl setmining 3 bet pots continuaallllyyyyy.

And people will not fold to my cbets... ever.. ever. ever. Like, honestly, I looked it up in HEM, and my cbetting is actually a losing play right now, coz all the donkeys are calling anything, even air.

They seem to have developed a call, check, bet strategy, but if u just raise em, or shove em off it, they call with anything coz they cant fold, and they own u.. with like bottom pair or even sometimes underpairs or A high lol! (that one was played badly).


Anyway, I am annoyed too, and I feel like I'm being way too weak nowadays, but when I get donked into, I don't feel like raising it anymore, they only call with ATC and hit the turn. its annoying.

I have actually had to go back to SNGs to grind up my roll a lil bit again.. at one point i was just rolled for 25nl, but im down to 10nl again now.

[mojo6911]

I have been beating 10NL on FTP for 20BB/100 over like 10k hands, (and I am no very good) so I don't think it is fixed. There are a lot of super retards on there for sure, so just keep grinding away.

[TheDeKay]

Originally Posted by Spinage

I'm not playing bad though which I am proud of...

Sry... but your article sounds more like you are unable to adapt to ppl calling you down light... I might be wrong, but if you say:

Originally Posted by Spinage

And people will not fold to my cbets... ever.. ever. ever. Like, honestly, I looked it up in HEM, and my cbetting is actually a losing play right now, coz all the donkeys are calling anything, even air.

They seem to have developed a call, check, bet strategy, but if u just raise em, or shove em off it, they call with anything coz they cant fold, and they own u.. with like bottom pair or even sometimes underpairs or A high lol! (that one was played badly).

it just seems like you really have a wrong mindset.

[Spinage]

maybe, but I've been here before and just ubertilted and blew off all my money.

Right now, I am just watching videos from trikkur and trying to keep my play normal, since as it has been working up to this point. Generally, I don't really know how to 'adapt' my own game, I'm not THAT comfortable with poker yet. I do adapt to specific opponents, over time, but I will do standard cbets, and at the momemnt, it's not a winning play for me, do you suggest I stop cbetting? ? ?

As for the shoving over or raising them, that was my attempt to keep it agressive, I had one moment of enlightenment when playing a recent session, where instead of tightening it up, and being more nittty in an attempt to beat the variance, I tried upping the agression and I got some good shortime results. Though it didn't feel right.

Anyway, I don't know what the right mindset is then, elaborate maybe? that would be very helpful. I thought in general, the right mindset at these kinda times was to just carry on playing your normal game and ride it out.

I find it kinda annoying, in the least.. argumental way, that you would just come and drop by and quote me and then just write like one sentence trying to say that in fact, I just play bad. Or whatever your trying to imply. It's a bit rude.

EDIT: just to CLEAR something up that I didn't mention, I'm not LOSING at the moment, I am just winning at an incredibally low win rate, basically breaking even, which is no good with no rakeback at pokerstars. THat has how my week has been, a sudden wave of extreme calling station opponents who seem to fold whenever I hit anything, or call me with better. That is how I define a downswing, when I'm playing fine (in my opinion) and just keep running into worse hands or not getting paid.

[TheDeKay]

Originally Posted by Spinage

Right now, I am just watching videos from trikkur and trying to keep my play normal, since as it has been working up to this point. Generally, I don't really know how to 'adapt' my own game, I'm not THAT comfortable with poker yet. I do adapt to specific opponents, over time, but I will do standard cbets, and at the momemnt, it's not a winning play for me, do you suggest I stop cbetting? ? ?

Well, you might want to change your Cbet% and stop Cbetting boards, that likely hit your opponent, oop against loose-opponents. If Cbetting just doesn't work against specific opponents just Cbet like 50% of the time and don't get uber aggro and try to push them off their hands (at least not, when they call you down so light)

Originally Posted by Spinage

As for the shoving over or raising them, that was my attempt to keep it agressive, I had one moment of enlightenment when playing a recent session, where instead of tightening it up, and being more nittty in an attempt to beat the variance, I tried upping the agression and I got some good shortime results. Though it didn't feel right.

Anyway, I don't know what the right mindset is then, elaborate maybe? that would be very helpful. I thought in general, the right mindset at these kinda times was to just carry on playing your normal game and ride it out.

Don't know, if mindset was the exactly right word. But imo at the micros you should focus on value betting and not on bluffing. Do not run large bluffs, be more inclined to make thin value bets.
You could try to be uber-aggro, but you really have to adapt to your opponents then... and if you say, that you don't feel very comfortable with that atm, you might want to play ABC-pkr.
Beeing aggressive does not necessariely imply a lot bluffing... you can play TAG, too And it's sooo easy to make way too many moves...

Originally Posted by Spinage

I find it kinda annoying, in the least.. argumental way, that you would just come and drop by and quote me and then just write like one sentence trying to say that in fact, I just play bad. Or whatever your trying to imply. It's a bit rude.

Well, if you have further questions, you could always ask... I can not cover everything I can think of in one post
I just wanted to tell you, that from what you have wrote, it didn't sound like you were not really adjusting to ppl calling you down light in the right way.
Just wanted to be helpfull... so that you can rethink some small parts of your game.