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Old 10-25-2009, 05:23 AM
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All poker is for me anymore is playing solid while donks suck out or make bad plays that somehow pay off while slowly, or fastly, losing my fucking money. I'm sick of it. I THOUGHT that studying was helping, but that was just a temporary halt in losing. I've been running hot preflop and even getting lots of sets lately. Donks have been giving me their whole stack w/ air some of the time too.

But I don't win near enough coolers to be a winning player and the damn varience isn't swinging my way either. It's either I play like a nit and slowly lose money by cbetting, or it's like today, when that turn card came and maybe that guy hit his straight draw, but I get it all in with my 2 pair because he's a donk and of course he happened to get their that time. I can't stand folding my good hand every time a POSSIBLE draw got there. Thats not winning me any money. But apparently whenever I call, they fucking got there or they do on the river. The last 2 days in a row I lost w/ AA to T3s and T3o, they both flopped 2 pair on me on dry boards. How am I supposed to avoid losing in these situations? Why are bad players' stupid plays paying off at 20NL?

I'm a whining bitch. The point of this is that I'm going to try to record myself playing on camstudio every session I do until I stop losing. Its just so frustrating to watch all these bad plays pay off for bad players, while I play solid and lose.

Will I be able to load up a camstudio video onto pokertrikz?

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Old 10-25-2009, 07:27 AM
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It's good to vent. I don't know too much about Camtasia.

Remember, all of these suck outs are building up so you will have a good run at some point.

At microstakes, I think you can cbet only (1) for value and (2)when you have no showdown value and you are 80% sure that the villain did not hit the flop. I don't think that it is bad to remove very low EV cbets from your arsenal. I know people lose a lot of value by cbetting loose passive fish because you are giving them value that they would not have gotten otherwise. They would just check it down and try to bet the river with their top pair, or something stupid.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:22 AM
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Yesterday I isoed a limper with AA and he check-raised on Q93 twotone flop having 2/3 stack. I felt like it may be straight/flush draw+pair so I've shoved and he showed Q3. I expect to see Q9 more often though...

Yet I'm not sure is it an ok spot to stack off and call it a cooler when I lose? Or maybe the better play is to call him down hoping he bets his queen?

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Old 10-25-2009, 08:33 AM
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Don't be delusional about your skills and don't call every hand you lose a cooler. When I was playing NL10-NL20 I was thinking that I'm playing very good, but the truth is I was still only like 3ptbb/100 winner in ultra soft games, which means I didn't really play good.

You really should be more critical about your play, you are making tons of mistakes in every session. When I played those stakes I thought I played good, but now whenever I look at my sessions after playing, I notice like dozen hands every time that I think I played badly, or at least not optimally...

If you record your sessions, I really do suggest watching the videos afterwards and trying to find spots where you lose value and/or you're going to valuetown yourself.
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:11 PM
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If you're going to make a rant thread, please post it in BBV. As chinz said, everyone thinks they are better than they truly are. Review your sessions and get better.
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:01 PM
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I am generally opposed to 3 betting, really just about ever. Even with a draw, you are often giving the villain odds to call. 3 betting allows the villain to make perfect decisions against us.

I guess I will 3 bet with the absolute nuts and other than that almost never. Besides with the nuts, in the last tens of thousands of hands (not sure how many exactly), I 3 bet like once when a regular on the cutoff min raised me on like a 443r flop.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:07 AM
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It might be ignorant to assume that I am just like every other player who thinks they are way better than they are. I don't think I'm great, but I do know that I'm better because than the majority of people I play against at 20NL because I can tell by their -EV plays based off of all the videos I've watched. Thats all I mean. I'm not saying I'm amazing, just that I'm better than most of the people, but losing money overall.

And to define cooler from my point of view, I mean AA vs KK with me on the losing side. Twice w/ KK lost to AA, and the last 3 times I had aces all in I lost to 2 pair (T3), and to KK which flopped a set after we got it all in pre. I hear about these heaters that people go on but I really can't see how its going to match these losses, I really hope I get one going soon.

Maybe I'll change my strat to a nit for a while, see how that does against the bad players who don't even take notes or pay attention. I think I'm going to cbet less. Idk, guess I'll try to record a video of me playing how I normally do so that I can get a true critique from you guys, and if that goes bad maybe I'll nit a little more.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:54 AM
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3 betting allows the villain to make perfect decisions against us.

I guess I will 3 bet with the absolute nuts and other than that almost never.
This is why as well. 3-betting is a powerful play, especially OOP. I would say that OOP it is far more important to 3-bet correctly than know how to call cbet raises profitably.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:55 AM
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It's good to vent. I don't know too much about Camtasia.

Remember, all of these suck outs are building up so you will have a good run at some point.

At microstakes, I think you can cbet only (1) for value and (2)when you have no showdown value and you are 80% sure that the villain did not hit the flop.
I think not betting for protection something like 66 on A83 is ridiculous and just makes your range so easy to read. There are a lot of regs at 50NL+ that try to play each street GTO and ignore the big picture, which is these hands are worth hardly more than a bluff.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:05 AM
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what does GTO mean? I made a video using Cam Studio. I uploaded it, but when I try to stream it, the link it goes to does not play any video, it just dies. I also tried to watch the video on my laptop using WMV which it opened with by default, and it says its in use by another program. I assumed it meant Cam Studio but I closed it and it still won't play. any ideas? Here is the link to the video:

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