New vid with a couple members!

[given1982]

I made a detailed post earlier that got deleted (I've been seeing posts disappear and then reappear today--very strange). I thought I understood you to say in the video that you collude with Colossos over IM about hands involving anyone else at the table other than Padawan. Please tell me that I misunderstood that.

[R8tme]

I believe he wasn't colluding. They just told each other their hands after it. like in the case with AK vs pair.
shame to colluders

[mxrider]

Originally Posted by given1982

I made a detailed post earlier that got deleted (I've been seeing posts disappear and then reappear today--very strange). I thought I understood you to say in the video that you collude with Colossos over IM about hands involving anyone else at the table other than Padawan. Please tell me that I misunderstood that.

Totally misunderstood. I never ever share info about my hand with someone else until after a hand is over. I will discuss how someone should play a hand that I am not involved in however, as if I was railing him while he is playing.

[mxrider]

Originally Posted by dansiek

ok i watched the video and it seemed to have some interesting spots was just a shame that it kept jumping back and forth

Forgive me for that as it was my first attempt to add audio to a previously recorded session and WMP was doing some crazy stuff.

[given1982]

Originally Posted by mxrider

Totally misunderstood. I never ever share info about my hand with someone else until after a hand is over. I will discuss how someone should play a hand that I am not involved in however, as if I was railing him while he is playing.

You don't think it's collusion for you to tell Colossus how to play a hand at a table you're also sitting at?

[mxrider]

Originally Posted by given1982

You don't think it's collusion for you to tell Colossus how to play a hand at a table you're also sitting at?

Once my cards are mucked, I honestly don't think so.

[ThatDeviant]

In very basic terms, poker collusion is when two or more people sitting at a poker table are working together to win more money from other players

imo.

[Colossos159]

How can this be colluding? Every sweating session is colluding? He and I NEVER share information about our hands during a hand even when they are in the muck, hell we stacked each other a number of times when playin on the same table !!! And do you really think I cant think for myself at the table? I just mention what I have so he can see how I play the hand and can comment on it afterwards or during the hand for that matter but he NEVER tells what he was holding.
Btw if i have AQ on a Axx board and i'm the preflop raiser, i know i have to bet the board. I mainly tell him that I have AQ when he's out of the hand so he can see whats going on.

Dont be so paranoid.

ps: i'm a little bit upset because i have to work today

[given1982]

Originally Posted by Colossos159

How can this be colluding? Every sweating session is colluding? He and I NEVER share information about our hands during a hand even when they are in the muck, hell we stacked each other a number of times when playin on the same table !!! And do you really think I cant think for myself at the table? I just mention what I have so he can see how I play the hand and can comment on it afterwards or during the hand for that matter but he NEVER tells what he was holding.
Btw if i have AQ on a Axx board and i'm the preflop raiser, i know i have to bet the board. I mainly tell him that I have AQ when he's out of the hand so he can see whats going on.

Dont be so paranoid.

ps: i'm a little bit upset because i have to work today

The problem is that whenever you two are not in a hand together, you're playing as a team against the rest of the table. The fact that you don't softplay each other just makes it less blatant.

What do you think the other players at the table would think about you guys teaming up on them every time you're not both in the hand?

Sweating is different because you're not at the table and are not dealt hole cards that could affect how the other person should play the hand.

You just totally ignore the holecards you folded? What about when the fact that those cards are dead makes a big difference in how to play the hand? Do you intentionally give bad advice to keep your hole cards secret?

I think this is problematic. I don't think you should be talking on AIM with someone that you're at the table with about the action.

[dansiek]

"The problem is that whenever you two are not in a hand together, you're playing as a team against the rest of the table. The fact that you don't softplay each other just makes it less blatant. "

How are you suppose to team together when neither of u r in the hand?