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Old 10-16-2010, 04:56 AM
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i'm relatively new to texas hold'em, i've played some low entry fee tourneys. The most frustrating thing ive found is the amount of players who play all-in on a high frequency level from the deal. On occassions they don't have a hand of any significance so why do they do it? I find it annoying.
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:15 PM
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Sorry are you talking about an early or later stage of a tournament?

In short, my understanding is early shoves are done mostly by crazy players. Later shoves are a part of an optimal strategy, a good player mixes them with ordinary raises.
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Old 10-16-2010, 03:33 PM
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thanks for your reply, i'm talking about early stages of a game
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:11 PM
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Ask a tourney specialist how to effectively deal with early on shoving... I guess you should fold to them often, i.e. if you seen them shoving 83o it doesn't mean you should be happy calling with A3o
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Old 10-16-2010, 07:18 PM
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Yea, I would NOT loosen up too much vs them and start calling with marginal hands. That is only going to kill your overall tournament EV. Just stick to your normal strategy and if you come up with a good hand, then you can bust them.

Once you start playing looser holdings yourself, you are really just falling into their trap and opening yourself up to going home early.
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:10 AM
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Yea, I would NOT loosen up too much vs them and start calling with marginal hands. That is only going to kill your overall tournament EV. Just stick to your normal strategy and if you come up with a good hand, then you can bust them.

Once you start playing looser holdings yourself, you are really just falling into their trap and opening yourself up to going home early.
Ya I think this is general tournament strategy too. If you're heads-up bvb vs a guy who goes in blind every hand and you pick up K2s, you might be a favorite over a random holding but it's still a fold. Then the interesting question becomes, what is the minimum (or maximum) stack size/hand to call with? If you have AT, you're obviously not folding, but what about A6s?
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:46 AM
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Ya I think this is general tournament strategy too. If you're heads-up bvb vs a guy who goes in blind every hand and you pick up K2s, you might be a favorite over a random holding but it's still a fold. Then the interesting question becomes, what is the minimum (or maximum) stack size/hand to call with? If you have AT, you're obviously not folding, but what about A6s?
Depends on who is at my table. If I'm sitting with this 1 donk, and then 5 top tourney pros then I'm taking as many +EV lines I can take. If the whole table is droolers, then I need to think longer term and pass on the A6s.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:39 AM
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If people are going all in with marginal hands very early in the tournaments, don't get frustrated and keep in mind that you can't win a tournament early, but you can lose early. It's also always worth making notes on the donks who go all in with marginal hands because if you are on a table with them later in the tournament and they have a big stack, you can take +EV lines against them and knock them out or double up through them
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