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Old 04-24-2009, 03:46 PM
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Default Limped pot, Minraise on the river against fish

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MP ($100)
CO ($141.10)
Button ($82)
SB ($123.25)
Hero (BB) ($100)
UTG ($105.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, 3
2 folds, CO calls $1, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($2.50) 4, Q, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO calls $2

Turn: ($6.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO calls $6

River: ($18.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $17.50, CO raises to $35

vilain was 66/0 over 70 hands ...
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it's a good situation, not sure if I just call or shove here though...
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:16 AM
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You don't think your beat here a big % of the time?
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:16 AM
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Well, let's say he'll stack off with any flush, trips and a Full house.
I give him a range of Axs, sc, s1c, some s highcards and some 4s:

Board: Qd 4d 4h 9d 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.459% 59.46% 00.00% 22 0.00 { Jd3d }
Hand 1: 40.541% 40.54% 00.00% 15 0.00 { 99, 44, AdQd, AdTd, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, A4s, Ad2d, KdJd, KdTd, Td8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 7d6d, 7d5d, 6d5d, 54s, 43s, A4o, 54o, 43o }

If he does not stack off and raises A4o etc. here:

Board: Qd 4d 4h 9d 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.783% 34.78% 00.00% 8 0.00 { Jd3d }
Hand 1: 65.217% 65.22% 00.00% 15 0.00 { 99, 44, AdQd, AdTd, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad2d, KdJd, KdTd, Td8d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 7d6d, 7d5d, 6d5d, 54s, 43s, 43o }

So if you think, that he'll call a shove /w trips... shove. If not, just call.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:45 AM
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question is to raise or call. with these odds dont ever think about folding.

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I think I just call here, then hate it when I win & next hand the fish stacks off to someone else
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just call. he could also betting a 4. the minraise doesn't mean that he has nuts.
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wtf, it's never a shove and it's close between a call and a fold.

infact against a 66/0 total loose passive, im folding this more than calling
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Do you not have stats for his postflop agression? There is lots of passive preflop, weirdo post flop ppl out there.

I think calling is the only option... to the guy above me, folding is just bad and weak imo... really bad, he's obviously retarded just by the 60/0 PF stats, is it that bad to assume he min raises A4?
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Do you not have stats for his postflop agression? There is lots of passive preflop, weirdo post flop ppl out there.

I think calling is the only option... to the guy above me, folding is just bad and weak imo... really bad, he's obviously retarded just by the 60/0 PF stats, is it that bad to assume he min raises A4?
Generally speaking, A4 is going to be raising the turn most often. A passive fish that raises the river generally has the nuts or close to it and the fact that it is a min raise makes it even more suspiscious. I agree that I am likely calling here as I don't think that even a passive fish will call with trip 4's here so I think shoving is wrong. I puke and call expect to see Axd or 34.
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