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Old 07-19-2009, 05:35 PM
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Villain is a nitty reg

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3 bet Pre is 6.0

Question 1.
IF 100bb DEEP
My standard on this dry flop is to flat a raise & see what happens on the turn. But He's SO damn Fit or Fold that can you justify folding? (I've NEVER seen him bluff raise. even to smaller that 1/2 pot bets)


Question 2.

is his raise on the flop small enough to set mine the turn? Assuming we are behind & a J turn gets an all in.
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Old 07-19-2009, 06:52 PM
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Your flop bet sizing is really bad. You need to bet at least 75% pot minimum here. Honestly this check/raise can be anything now because you bet so small.

I would call and probably call most turn bets.
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Old 07-19-2009, 06:58 PM
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1. Hm, how many hands? He has 3bet of 6, so he should 3bet at least KK+. He might do that /w TT too... so I think, call flop and reevaluate turn ist fine.

2. You need 22 to 1 for 1 card with 2 outs... it's 7$ more. So yes, you can set mine here, if you think, he will get it in /w QQ+ and his other hands, that beat you

Edit: I think, your flop-bet is fine. Dry, low board... no reason why we should bigger here.
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Your flop bet sizing is really bad. You need to bet at least 75% pot minimum here. Honestly this check/raise can be anything now because you bet so small.

I would call and probably call most turn bets.
From what I've seen he has Never bluffed so why risk more
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1. Hm, how many hands? He has 3bet of 6, so he should 3bet at least KK+. He might do that /w TT too... so I think, call flop and reevaluate turn ist fine.

2. You need 22 to 1 for 1 card with 2 outs... it's 7$ more. So yes, you can set mine here, if you think, he will get it in /w QQ+ and his other hands, that beat you

Edit: I think, your flop-bet is fine. Dry, low board... no reason why we should bigger here.
This was my exact thinking during the hand. I was debating whether he 3bets TT pre & decided he wouldn't but that's really the ONLY hand I can see myself being ahead of & it's too slim to be worth going broke
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:00 PM
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This was my exact thinking during the hand. I was debating whether he 3bets TT pre & decided he wouldn't but that's really the ONLY hand I can see myself being ahead of & it's too slim to be worth going broke
Well, you don't have to go broke
It's 23$ in the pot and 7$ to call... so even if he only has TT, QQ and sets in his range, we can call and reevaluate. After we called his c/r he shouldn't bet huge /w TT, if he is so nitty... he might even slow down /w QQ.
And I don't know, how many hands you have, but he might do this /w a pp like 88 from tiiime to time, too, and shut down on the turn.
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Old 07-20-2009, 04:46 AM
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How many hands are your stats based off of for this session? Just because villain has never check-raised bluffed before doesn't mean that he isn't doing it now. The real question here is... has he ever flatted QQ+ pf. If he has never, then you can safely take those hands out of his range. Villain might think that the board is so dry that you have overcards, and is actually going for a bluff raise. He could also have 66 - 88, or even a 45 here. I'd flat and see what happens on the turn.
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Old 07-20-2009, 02:22 PM
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He multitables 16-20 at a time, I have 1k hands played with him. & i dont think he's a multi level thinker. Just fit or fold
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Old 07-20-2009, 04:07 PM
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betsizing is too small, I'd call flop and reevaluate turn
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betsizing is too small, I'd call flop and reevaluate turn
i guess i've already argued this point and lost, so yes betsizing must always be 3/4 pot
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