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Old 08-23-2009, 01:53 AM
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Default 100NL Give villian a range

I am playing 19/15/2, villian is playing 24/20/3 and seems competent, he is a reg from what i have noticed

What do u put villian's range on? what is the least u call with


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Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 2 cards
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:28 AM
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Is the HH messed up? I see you took out your cards, but it says hero is CO in the stack sizes and preflop. And then on the flop,turn,river, the CO is betting/raising you, if you fix it, it would make it a lot easier to give analysis.
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:03 AM
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My guess on villains range: TT,66,KhJh,QTs,J9s,98s (3x J9s as a bluff)

I think, that I would have shoved quite a lot of the hands I'm calling here with on the turn. Assuming that I don't shove the turn, my calling range should look somewhat like that: AA,QQ,TT,66,KhJh,QTs,Q6s,Jh9h,T6s,98s,QTo,98o
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:24 AM
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I think, that I would have shoved quite a lot of the hands I'm calling here with on the turn. Assuming that I don't shove the turn, my calling range should look somewhat like that: AA,QQ,TT,66,KhJh,QTs,Q6s,Jh9h,T6s,98s,QTo,98o
T6s, a suited triple gapper, really? Added in for real nits in the blinds?
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:42 AM
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T6s, a suited triple gapper, really? Added in for real nits in the blinds?
T6s is a pretty standart steal for me... I only don't steal with it, if the blinds really defend. Against ppl who fold like 75% of their BB I always steal with T6s.
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:13 AM
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T6s is a pretty standart steal for me... I only don't steal with it, if the blinds really defend. Against ppl who fold like 75% of their BB I always steal with T6s.
so that is a pretty wide range. before adding in T6s to a steal range, I would want to add in all the suited connectors and suited single gappers first, right (maybe not 24s, though)? YOu would probably also have a ton of unsuited mid-single gappers before T6s, right? Is a good way to figure out what to add into your range just to go into poker stove and type in a percentage and then it tells you what hands to play? You can then just up that percentage and see what it adds in- is that a good way to find out?

the things that I am trying to work on right now in my game are defending the BB from steals. I haven't been very successful at this so far so I tightened my defend range further and focus on the less than or equal to 3.5BB LP raisers for the lower part of my range.. still in the early phases of working on my game wrt this aspect but maybe defending with broadways + 9. Maybe some suited connectors, too but hmm.. they maybe dont play the best out of position & hands like your T6s are gonna get me I am even just happy with break even play but getting info on villain, making it tougher to put me on a range, and meta game purposes. Post flop I seem to be doing a fair amount of check calling/ very small bets to just try to break even.. I am not trying to just hit the stealers, I am trying to defend so that they will tighten up. Maybe this is not all that crucial at 50NL but would like to start working on it so that I am more ready for 100NL and 200NL.

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Old 08-25-2009, 12:18 PM
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Just play hands you feel comfortable with ^^ If the blinds are loose, I play less hands... if the blinds are tight, I play a lot of hands from the button. I fold garbage like 84o, but against some blinds I steal like 80%... I can't really give you a stealing-range. Just figure out, what fits your style and what you feel comfortable with Just try to steal often enough ^^
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Old 08-25-2009, 01:04 PM
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on flop I would put his range at (AQ)/(AA/KK)/QT/J9s/KJ/AJ/66/(TT) and some bluffs(=22/33/44/55/77/88/missed SCs)

put AA/KK/AQ/TT in () because I think he would 3bet that a lot of the time.

So on the flop I call with any pair of tens or higher, any decent draw & 3bet sets+ and monster draws.

On the turn when he bets again I think he's giving up with his complete air almost always and continues with FDs, OESDs & combo draws + sets & 2pairs.
So I'd peel 1 more w Tx+ and id fold most of my draws.

On this river when he shoves, readless I would fold unless I have AQ+ (though id expect to lose a little more than 50% of the time w AQ). This is really villain dependant ofcourse, against some I'd fold a lot more hands here or on turn and against some this is snapcall with Tx.

I think you should fold river here because I don't expect 100NL regs to 3barrel bluff often enough in general to make a +EV call on this river.
Might seem very fishy to call turn with such a wide range but then fold a ton on the river, but I do this because I expect 100NL regs to give up with missed draws a ton on the river and that is a huge part of his range on the turn.
Shipping it allin on the turn is ok too, but I think calling is better

If I'd have to guess what villain most likely had I'd say KhJh or 66

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Just play hands you feel comfortable with ^^ If the blinds are loose, I play less hands... if the blinds are tight, I play a lot of hands from the button. I fold garbage like 84o, but against some blinds I steal like 80%... I can't really give you a stealing-range. Just figure out, what fits your style and what you feel comfortable with Just try to steal often enough ^^
ok thanks. I think people also forget that you can also open up your range from UTG1 (6 max) to steal in a really nitty game or with really nitty CO and button.

Sorry to get all off topic in this thread
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:08 PM
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ok thanks. I think people also forget that you can also open up your range from UTG1 (6 max) to steal in a really nitty game or with really nitty CO and button.

Sorry to get all off topic in this thread
I don't think you should be playing in really nitty games.
You won't ever win much unless you cooler someone and there are much softer games out there.

I would actually open a lot more hands OTB vs passive fish in the blinds than I would if there are regs.

Yes you can steal blinds from nits with a ton of hands, but you have to be able to not spew when you get played back at or called by the blinds.

It is very easy to lose money playing LAG
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