Login
  • Home
  • Articles
  • Reviews
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forums
  • Tools
  • Bonuses
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 08:42 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 613
Default 200 NL: I'm spewy

Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (3 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($266.65)
Hero (SB) ($276.95)
BB ($98)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J:diamond:, A:heart:
1 fold, Hero bets $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 3:spade:, Q:spade:, A:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($28) K:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($68) 7:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $38, Hero calls $38

Total pot: $144

I didn't have any history on the villain except that he sat down as a short stack so I assumed he wasn't the greatest. It was a little bit weird to check that flop (what do you guys think) but I guess I wanted villain to feel comfortable betting his weak aces/ bluffing. Betting the turn puzzled me a little bit because I didn't think that AK/AQ would be in his range. The river bet would almost always be KQ or flushes or a bluff. I guess I did not want to give the villain credit for being able to adjust the bet sizing to make Ax call. You have to give an unknown at 200 NL a pretty good amount of credit, though, right?

Last edited by Silverthunder; 10-29-2009 at 09:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 08:57 AM
chinz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,021
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverthunder View Post
You have to give an unknown at 200 NL a pretty good amount of credit, though, right?
Yes, but nowhere enough to fold TP with decent kicker when you play it like that. I'm not too happy calling, but I'd never fold that after playing it like that.
__________________
srsly guise
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 09:48 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 613
Default

But Chinz, we are then allowing the villain to manipulate us. I know it is blind on blind/ 3 handed or whatever, but in my experience that doesnt change things in the games I play almost at all. People either let you steal their BB from the SB or they are a bit passive, calling with a wide range.

Last edited by Silverthunder; 10-29-2009 at 10:02 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 02:46 PM
TheDeKay's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Germany (sometimes China)
Posts: 1,486
Default

Against an unknown player, I just Cbet here. I see no reason to c/c... maaaybe c/r, if I think he overvalues a draw and is aggro enough to semi-bluff a spade.

It's somewhat hard to fold the river, but I might just dump my hand here and hope, that he didn't try to value bet /w AT or 3barrel bluff... but I'm not really sure. We really underrept our hand!
__________________
It's over now it's unbelievable
I just feel like a diamond on a crown
I'm so happy it's unbelievable
Now - I just feel newborn
-- EMIL BULLS FTW
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 02:57 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 999
Default

I agree with Dekay. I don't know if I'd call the river but I know you could've played it better.

What was your rationale for check-calling?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-29-2009, 04:33 PM
given1982's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,954
Default

More bet/folding, less check/calling.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2009, 12:23 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 613
Default

Normally there I would probably bet, bet, probably c/f the river, but maybe c/c.

Against a short stack like this, if I had a second pair type hand or underpair, I would probably check this flop. It just hits his range too much.

By c/c, I think I can get a bit of a read on an unknown, though maybe I am wrong because I don't play 200 NL much. At 100NL, I think players like this often wont bet the nut flush draw, so you get more information by c/c. I also make him feel more comfortable with a weak A, going for more than 1 street of value.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2009, 05:34 AM
AdrienD's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Pokerstars
Posts: 253
Send a message via Skype™ to AdrienD
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverthunder View Post
Normally there I would probably bet, bet, probably c/f the river, but maybe c/c.

Against a short stack like this, if I had a second pair type hand or underpair, I would probably check this flop. It just hits his range too much.

By c/c, I think I can get a bit of a read on an unknown, though maybe I am wrong because I don't play 200 NL much. At 100NL, I think players like this often wont bet the nut flush draw, so you get more information by c/c. I also make him feel more comfortable with a weak A, going for more than 1 street of value.
snapcall imo. you only need to be right a little over 26% of the time.
bet/fold flop next time
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2009, 07:23 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 613
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrienD View Post
snapcall imo. you only need to be right a little over 26% of the time.
bet/fold flop next time
A lot of his raising range would be KsXx, made flushes, and sets. Ok, not enough equity against that range.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
TP 3-way OOP, second barrel spewy? couriermike Micro Stakes 10 07-27-2009 01:44 AM
Im spewy Padawan Micro Stakes 3 12-10-2008 05:36 AM
Spewy play w JJ here? adam258 Micro Stakes 2 07-08-2008 11:18 PM
Too spewy, right? given1982 Micro Stakes 4 06-28-2008 06:02 PM
Got bailed out or spewy? sonic Micro Stakes 7 01-17-2008 07:21 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45