AQs BvB

[speedlingz]

just know that this guy multi tables alot and he has put me on some tough all ins before, but how did i play this one?


Cake Poker - Hand History

[TheDeKay]

I just bet the turn... pretty drawheavy board, so I think he is more likely to fastplay his very strong hands.
But seems like you played it even better, cause he stacked off on the river :P

[given1982]

I 3bet preflop and bet the turn.

[AdrienD]

id bet turn too.

as played though, his line doesnt make any sense.
He's never check/shoving worse than a flush for value and he wouldve likely 2 barreled a flushdraw. He wouldve also likely bet the river once you check the turn with a flush.

Your hand is also underrepped and looks like a weak ace at best and theres no way villain can assume you're bet/calling a weak ace here.

Id bet/call any ace here though, its esentially the same hand as AQ cause he's never turning a hand better than A2 into a bluff. (that is, if you think calling AQ here is good then you should be calling with any ace here)

[Silverthunder]

Originally Posted by given1982

I 3bet preflop and bet the turn.

agreed.

Originally Posted by AdrienD

id bet turn too.

as played though, his line doesnt make any sense.
He's never check/shoving worse than a flush for value and he wouldve likely 2 barreled a flushdraw. He wouldve also likely bet the river once you check the turn with a flush.

Your hand is also underrepped and looks like a weak ace at best and theres no way villain can assume you're bet/calling a weak ace here.

Id bet/call any ace here though, its esentially the same hand as AQ cause he's never turning a hand better than A2 into a bluff. (that is, if you think calling AQ here is good then you should be calling with any ace here)

I am not so sure that he would have 2 barreled a flush draw. A lot of the BB range at these stakes, without history can be Ax (yes, they are weak tight in calling from the BB pre). & 2 barrel blind on blind they quite likely will not lay it down

I agree that when the villain checks the river that is weird. When he check shoves it seems like he is trying to steal it away from your thin value bet.

Thanks for the notes on this villain. I have played with this guy- he plays a lot of hands- one of the higher volume regs.

Seems like these regs like to make moves when flush completes. Confidence24 tried that on me a while ago. He floated the flop with air, raised turn when flush completed and shipped river. I had top two just like you on the hand that I am describing. Besides calling these regs down on boards where the flush completed, what else can we do to counter them? Are there any adjustments we should be making preflop? What should we do once we have caught the villain doing this-- give them credit next time?

[urbansprawler]

I also 3b preflop and bet the turn, but if you think your range looks weaker by checking and he is more prone to bluffing, by all means check and keep his range as wide as possible.

I would also tag him as a complete idiot after his check/shove with TT.

[Silverthunder]

I agree that this is really not bad as played versus a regular. Checking behind on the turn really can open up his calling range on the river. Flatting pre is also not bad because with regs you have to be somewhat deceptive at times.

[TheDeKay]

Since he raised 5BB pre, I don't see any reason to 3bet that with AQ. It's way more +Ev to keep his dominated hands in the hands (he overreps an A anyways... so even if we don't dominate him, we are likely to get quite some value, when we hit an A or Q).

[podbelski]

@who likes 3betting pre:

what is the plan if he 4bets? IMO we have to fold, so I like flatting more

[urbansprawler]

So, what you are saying is the only hands that you 3-bet are hands you're prepared to call a shove with? Do you only raise hands you can call a 3-bet with?