100NL: Villain semibluffs with TP & 3rd nut flush draw

[Silverthunder]

What do you guys think of this villain's play? I know it is fairly common to semibluff with straight draw and pair (I am talking about in general, not this board obviously) but this is a bit different as his draw is not really to the nuts. Maybe this isn't as bad because it's blind on blind. Villain and I have very little history; I have no notes on him & there is no history of me going nuts from the SB, though I probably did show some aggression from the SB over a limited sample.

Also, my play is a bit interesting, too. What do you guys think?

Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($100.60)
MP ($111.90)
CO ($116.60)
Button ($34.25)
Hero (SB) ($99)
BB (love2win9) ($80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, 6
4 folds, Hero bets $2, BB (love2win9) calls $1

Flop: ($4) 6, 2, K (2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, BB (love2win9) raises to $8, Hero calls $5.25

Turn: ($20) A (2 players)
Hero bets $15, BB (love2win9) raises to $30, Hero calls $15

River: ($80) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB (love2win9) checks

Total pot: $80

BB (love2win9): shows [Kd Js] (Pair of Kings )

[urbansprawler]

I don't like turn call. Shoving or folding is best here. Only reason not to shove flop is because you want to improve your hand's equity by seeing a safe turn (and rightfully so) and then getting it in. If you got some kind of weird read on the minraise, you should've folded.

But if you call flop I don't see a reason to ever flat-call the turn. Fishy move imo.

[TheDeKay]

Since there are not too manz hands in your range, that beat him on the flop, I think his flop raise is fine, since there are quite some weaker hands you might want to continue.
On the turn I don't like his raise though, cause your range connects with the A quite well.

I don't understand why you just called the turn... he has 80BB and there's not too much that beats us (he will call with many hands that we beat) and we stack off against most stronger hands like 3/4 of the time on the river anyways.

[tmiby]

As played I shove turn.

But I'm also thinking about 3 bet flop. As I've seen when people in those spot hold the As, they won't fold.
After the 3bet on the flop, you can probably get it in on the turn.

[podbelski]

Is it a standard to minraise pre from SB with junk @NL100?

I think it's fine for the BB to 3bet pre, take those 2BB and go to the next hand cause you are very unlikely to have much, unless it was a misclick. He either didn't realized that or knew what he was doing, looking to dominate/outplay you...

[Silverthunder]

My thought on the turn was that I have shown tremendous strength and he has shown a lot of strength in response. I thought his range is sets, nut flush draw, and made flush. I thought that shoving would fold out the nut flush draw so all better hands would call & all worse hands would fold. My plan is to check/fold river to any decent sized bet.

Originally Posted by podbelski

Is it a standard to minraise pre from SB with junk @NL100?

I think it's fine for the BB to 3bet pre, take those 2BB and go to the next hand cause you are very unlikely to have much, unless it was a misclick. He either didn't realized that or knew what he was doing, looking to dominate/outplay you...

Yes, the min raise is a little bit weird. I like to mess around and try that on people. Some players will fold enough to that move to where it is profitable. Against some villains I actually think that that move has about the same fold equity as the standard raise size.

Originally Posted by TheDeKay

Since there are not too manz hands in your range, that beat him on the flop, I think his flop raise is fine, since there are quite some weaker hands you might want to continue.
On the turn I don't like his raise though, cause your range connects with the A quite well.

You mean the nut flush draws that are in my range?
I think that he min raises so that even without implied odds to the flush draw, he is getting the right price for that bet (assuming some fold equity).

[TheDeKay]

Originally Posted by Silverthunder

You mean the nut flush draws that are in my range?
I think that he min raises so that even without implied odds to the flush draw, he is getting the right price for that bet (assuming some fold equity).

I meant the Kx hands, that didn't hit 2pair, maybe even some weaker hands and maybe he even had the read that you are playing very passiv so if you 3bet on the flop you have the nuts...

[chinz]

Originally Posted by urbansprawler

But if you call flop I don't see a reason to ever flat-call the turn. Fishy move imo.

Against many villains I'd bet-call the flop and check-call down on this board... against some I'd even fold on the river. I think all lines (b/c-c/c-c/c, b/3b/c, b/c-c/r...) have their merits, and it's very villain dependent.

Against some aggrofish bet-calling flop and check/raising on the turn is optimal, because huge portion of their ranges is AsX and we don't have to fear that they'll check it back on the turn (since they turned TP) and they're not bet-folding so we'll get all the money in anyway.

I don't like that donk on the turn btw, only reason we should be bet-calling instead of bet-3betting on the flop, is to give him rope to hang himself... and we're not doing that if we donkbet the turn. If we'd have a read that he goes crazy againts donkbets, then making smaller donkbet (like $9-12 maybe) on the turn and then clicking call twice could have most value.