NL100: Max value vs. awful fish

[chinz]

weaktight | Hand | JKo - €0.50/€1 No Limit Holdem

Villain is 88/36, donks a lot of weakish hands, doesn't really fold any made hands. If it's possible, he's even worse than his vpip/pfr suggests...

I'm making it big preflop because I have his limping range absolutely crushed and I have position. That I guess is pretty standard. As is the valueraise on the flop, which I make somewhat small, making sure he calls with hands like 4T...

What about the turn? I'd be interested to know what kind of raise size would you like. Again, I wanted to make sure he stays in the pot (and I could get stacks in by the river anyway, if I decide so) so I made it quite small.

For some reason when he donkbet the river again I decided just to call, because he could easily have 7x, limp-slowplayed overpair, straight or backdoor flush... Too weak?

What do you think about my turn raise size and just calling the river, am I missing too much value?

[urbansprawler]

Turn should be ~$30 imo, river flat is standard. $30 vs this guy doesn't fold much more than your sizing, but you do set up a smoother river shove.

[chinz]

Originally Posted by urbansprawler

Turn should be ~$30 imo, river flat is standard. $30 vs this guy doesn't fold much more than your sizing, but you do set up a smoother river shove.

I'm not sure if you noticed his stack size, rivershove would still be like half pot with my stack size... Given that, $30 might probably be a little too much, he might actually fold something like 46o (if he's ever folding pair+gutshot, can't really know about these guys). But on the other hand, if I had made it a little more on the turn, it probably makes it even harder for him to fold a hand like that on the river.

With full stacks I agree that something like $30 would be a great betsize.


Worth mentioning btw, he was repping

[given1982]

I like smaller on the flop and shoving the river given reads. I think turn size is fine given villain's stack size.

[urbansprawler]

Originally Posted by chinz

I'm not sure if you noticed his stack size, rivershove would still be like half pot with my stack size... Given that, $30 might probably be a little too much, he might actually fold something like 46o (if he's ever folding pair+gutshot, can't really know about these guys). But on the other hand, if I had made it a little more on the turn, it probably makes it even harder for him to fold a hand like that on the river.

Yes, I noticed it, but I think the gap between his calling range for the bigger bet on the river as compared to a smaller bet is smaller compared to the gap in his calling range for the bigger bet on the turn as compared to a smaller bet.

[Qgel]

I love messing around with betsizes against guys like that But you gotta shove that river since he's stacking off with J2s all day long and who knows what other hilarious crap he can call with. Just when you thought you've seen everything from them, they make a random call with a missed draw Makes my day time and time again.