Transition to 100NL

[tmiby]

I know threads like that are spread all over.
But I think there are always changes and "trends" in online poker.

I finally can move to 100NL. I've played 1K hands until now and I'm up for 1 Buyin. No big hands, no big preflop action.

I experienced two main differences between 50NL and 100NL:

- If you PFR in CO, the BTN 3bets vey often. Solution: I either open my 4bet range or watch out for a softer table.

- I sometimes like to flat in SB against a steal from BTN. If you do that at 100NL, it's very likely that BB squeezes into both.
Solution: I do less flatting and more 3betting to defend.


And I can confirm there are hugh donks too! Saw a 96/20 guy yesterday. He often raised like 20BB pre. or 3bet to 40BB. Everyone was waiting for a good hand to play him. someone got AQo and got called from this crazy guy with 82o (80BB deep). Great stuff! unfortunately the AQ hold up. otherwise I could have continued against a hugh 200bb fish...

[podbelski]

no more rush?

[tmiby]

hehe!
read recently some articles and books about HUDs 'n Stats. Wanted to go back to normal tables...building up an image and play with it.
I like the normal tables right now. sometimes I still open one rush table.

Just got coolered at 100NL. I call against BTN open with AQs. Flop comes AAK. turn is 3 and river 7. I actually choosed a donk line that should look very bluffy (2 spades on flop) - it did of course. I got it in on the river with an overbet...wanted to get called maybe by AJ, AT...he just flips over KK for a flopped FH.
Damn! But I think I did fine. nothing to do about that.

[Qgel]

First of all fish at any level are fish except there are less fish the higher you go which kinda sucks when you want to take a shot at 400NL and 600NL and all you see at the tables are 6 winning regs exchanging blinds *sigh*.

The only thing that changes as you move up are best regs are generally better the higher the limits you move up to. I would honestly say that 50NL and 100NL plays about the same, even 200NL does, though there are a few tougher regs there.
The whole "I'm getting 3bet a lot more and squeezed a lot more" thinking is almost entirely all in your head so be careful. You probably just notice it more often because the betsizes are bigger and maybe you're playing fewer tables and are more focused in general. I'd say just take notes or use stats (but careful with sample sizes!) to determine who's really 3betting a ton of junk and squeezing light a lot and who just seems to be doing it but shows up with a hand way more often than not. I think one of the biggest mistakes people make at least at 200NL where I put in most of my hands currently is overadjusting. People assume that you're 3betting light or that you're 4bet bluffing way more often than you actually are. I've been guilty of this myself and still do it on occasion and end up regretting 5bet shoving that K2s

The reality is that there are very few people who actually play so aggro that they make your life hell and those guys almost always end up being huge spewtards anyway, at least up to 200NL so I wouldn't even worry about it.

[podbelski]

So you mean if I'm a decent steady winner @NL50, even if I have leaks, there are no doubts I'll be a winner @NL100?

[urbansprawler]

Originally Posted by podbelski

So you mean if I'm a decent steady winner @NL50, even if I have leaks, there are no doubts I'll be a winner @NL100?

I haven't played 100NL in a while but from what I remember it was vastly different from 50NL and the regs were much tougher, but they still sucked. Lol

[Nostalgica]

The regs are bad, but I think not in a way that you will have a huge edge against them and you actually have to try to outplay them a lot more. I would actually say 100NL is significantly harder than 50NL.

[Qgel]

Originally Posted by podbelski

So you mean if I'm a decent steady winner @NL50, even if I have leaks, there are no doubts I'll be a winner @NL100?

Pretty much. There are no significant changes that would turn a decent (I'm thinking in the 4-5 BB/100 range) winner into a loser once he moves up from 50NL to 100NL. Naturally, your winrate is expected to decrease somewhat since as I said regs are slightly better and also because there are already a few regs that consistantly beat the game for a living and never move up that you should watch out for but still nothing too significant. It's just that the biggest winners usually don't stay long at a limit like 100NL, they just move up.

[podbelski]

I'll wait for tmiby to give a NL100 report

[Silverthunder]

I agree that the jump from 50NL to 100NL on Cake isn't easy. In my experience, I would say that 200NL is probably softer than 100NL. There are a lot of regs on Cake at the small stakes. It really helps to be able to outplay the regs b/c with fish you have to jump all over different tables and you don't have a chance to get settled at a table and try to use slight advantages that you have on the average players.

Cliff notes: at small stakes, it is important to be able to outplay the average players.