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Old 05-01-2012, 05:17 PM
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Default TP2K Multi-Way Pot vs Raise

Yatahay Network Game #60839571: No Limit Holdem ($0.50/$1) [2012/05/01 03:55:37 UTC]
Table: Adelite (BBJ) - 6
Seats: 6
Seat 1: dazednconfused ($126.21)
Seat 2: Commons ($107.94)
Seat 3: Trikkur ($100)
Seat 4: angleshooter ($153.47)
Seat 5: BooneCrockett ($202.63)
Seat 6: Winter01 ($145.80)
Button is seat 2
Trikkur: posts small blind $0.50
angleshooter: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Trikkur: dealt [Qh Kh]
BooneCrockett: folds
Winter01: calls $1
dazednconfused: raises $5
Commons: calls $5
Trikkur: calls $4.50
angleshooter: calls $4
Winter01: folds
*** FLOP *** [9d Qc 7d]
Trikkur: bets $12
angleshooter: raises $36
dazednconfused: folds
Commons: folds

I should of squeezed preflop. I normally would have, I was going to, but I decided to call at the last minute because AngleShooter and Winter were both pretty bad and I wanted to play in pots vs them. While AngleShooter could have a set, I think it is likely he has a pair or a draw. Would you rather raise or call in this spot?
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:15 AM
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I think a raise is better just because there's so many draws out there. I really don't know, I think a squeeze would of made this hand so much easier to play.

Also, do people limp a lot at 100NL and 50NL?
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:29 AM
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Had to think about this one a little before posting. But without any relevant reads on villain, its pretty impossible to make a decision that I'd be confident in.

Why is raise or call our only options? lol.

I think fold is the best play here in a vacuum.

1. People are almost never raising here on the flop with air, so I am gonna discredit that part of his range.
2. Villain doesn't raise 41% of effective stacks with the plan to ever fold in the hand. Hes probably pretty nutted.
3. If we call flop, the pot size is 96$ with 59 left behind. If you are ever calling to c/f, you are making a mistake like 99% of the time. Its pretty impossible to play the hand correctly equity wise if u just call, so i think the choice is either folding or shoving.
4. If he had a draw, why would he raise here and basically commit such a large % of his stack where he can never fold? Doesnt make sense for him to raise a draw when he can benefit by having others come along so he could get more money if he hits his draw.
5. I think his range is heavily weighted toward a set, 2pair, oesfd, pair+fd, or some other super strong hand. Sizing indicates he is not afraid of anything on the flop, and wants to shovel money in asap.
6. Donk/folding is not as exploitable/bad as most people probably think. It is definitely hard because we are donk betting for value, so it seems backwards to be folding to a single raise, but his perceived range, our position, and pot stack ratio make our hand a lot less attractive. QK is prob the absolute bottom of our range that we are donk betting for value here, so folding it to a raise is not exploitable at all.
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