VIDEO DISCUSSION: no eff eks 5 - Absolute $25nl (deep) 6-max

[Trikkur]

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50 minutes 4 tables 200bb max LAG style In this video I play my normal semi-loose/aggressive style on 4 6max tables. I end up getting owned pretty hard in the video, but overall I am happy with my play. Definitely some interesting spots so please feel free to comment on them whether you agree with my reasoning or not. Enjoy!

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[~run.it.twice]

Just finished watching, I certainly feel you were too quick tag someone as a fish and you weren't giving the villains enough credit for their hands. You criticised fish for c/c the flop and then leading the turn and river but you did the same on a couple of occasions.

Maybe this is coincidence of similar playing styles but I came to the conclusion that you try to play like Trikkur too much. You were ultra aggresive on a lot of hands, 3betting extremely light and then c/c the flop and turn because you didn't believe they had it.

You lost about ~$70 in that session when it really could have been minimalized.

[no eff eks]

Originally Posted by ~run.it.twice

You lost about ~$70 in that session when it really could have been minimalized.

If not for the big pots that I lost I would've been up on the session -- actually if not for losing the 400bb pot near the end I would've been up on the session, and I'm absolutely happy with my play.

In that hand I get 3bet by a thinking TAG when I make a steal raise. I go ahead and 4bet my Axs for several reasons -- first because he's definitely going to be 3betting light quite often, I have an ace in my hand making it less likely that he has one in his hand, I can get lots of better hands to fold preflop (small/medium pairs, weakish Ax hands), and I can't call even though I'm actually usually ahead. I flop top pair and he insta-checks, pretty clear spot to check behind. He bets about 1/2 pot on the turn -- clear spot to call since raising is terrible and I'm almost always ahead. The river is basically a brick and my hand looks exactly like TT-KK that tried to pot control - I expect a thinking player to shove basically 100% of their range on this river so it's a clear snap call imo. The fact that he shows up with a rivered straight is just unfortunate, but had I won that pot I would've been up well over a buy-in on the session.

I'm not sure what you're talking about with the c/c flop, lead turn/river lines... you say I used it myself, and I'm confused since I basically never take that line.

I tag people as fish when they have fishy stats. Just because somebody is a fish doesn't mean that they can't make hands, so just because I didn't give somebody credit and they show up with a hand doesn't mean that they aren't a fish.

As for trying to play like trikkur.... I have no idea what you're talking about to be honest.

[~run.it.twice]

Fair enough, it was an observation more than a criticism, I think thing some of the sample sizes were too small to really get a read that they're 3betting light ect.

Some of the sample sizes weren't really big enough to say 'ok, he's playing 73/27, he's probably got nothing here, he's not likely to have this or this', I just feel you should have given a little more credit in a couple of spots where perhaps dumping the hand was a lot more +EV than checking him up. A couple of times I saw you calling bets knowing you'd probably have to face bets on the turn and river if you follow it through, where perhaps a 3bet would give you a lot more fold equity, it also opens a door for an easy fold if you either get 4bet, or lead into on the flop.

Like I say, just an observation not a criticism, I'd like to see more videos for sure :P.

[no eff eks]

Well as far as getting a read that somebody would 3bet light, generally the less fishy the player, the more likely they'll 3bet light (and vice versa). So when I say somebody is probably 3betting a wide range it's usually a sign that I think they're at least a thinking player that understands the benefits of 3betting light preflop.

I'm not sure that I ever payed off any post-flop 3bets in this video, but if you've got an example let me know.

I didn't mean to imply that I made no mistakes through the entire session... just that the reason I lost so much in the session was due mostly to running kind of bad (combined with my style of play obviously). These kinds of swings are typical if you're going to play this way, but overall I do think it's the best way to exploit the players at stakes from 10nl to 100nl.

Sorry if I came off like a dick earlier, I had just woke up and was in a bad mood.