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Old 03-31-2009, 10:00 PM
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Default VIDEO DISCUSSION: mxrider 4 - 2 tables of 50nl at Tilt

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2 tables of 50nl per request by one of our forum members. This video focuses on getting reads on our opponents and making plays based on those reads. There are some interesting spots that come about due to this. Hope you enjoy and always remember to leave comments by clicking on the Discuss Video button below.

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Old 03-31-2009, 10:33 PM
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watching now but I'm a bit confused..

werent you on a downswing and needing to drop down to 10NL? how the hell are you doing 50NL? did you just deposit to make this vid? lol
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:12 PM
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lets give some input..

early in the video you get 810o on the button. you need to tighten your button range man, you are raising with almost any 2 cards and I think its a leak in your game. trying to iso the limper with a nit in your bb was also a big mistake IMO, hand is not strong enough to iso w/.

10:50 - you raise w/ 63o blind on blind. once again I suggest you tighten your range as I see it as a leak for you.

13:00 - you 3bet pf w/ 55. you dont have position and you dont know anything about this guy. you do it just because its a button open and you have a pocket pair but IMO flatting for the set is the best play here. if you had a hand like AK or a hand that you are willing to play for stacks with, by all means do it, or if you had a veryy solid read that the guy always is trying to steal.

27:00 - 3betting the guy that has been taking your button away from you in the cutoff. I understand why you do it, but once again I dont agree with doing it with 45o..

41:00 - you get no value of your flopped straight. you have decent position, just flat then play the turn. the fish has better odds of coming along and the guy who led out in the first place may do so again.

I applaud your play on the cartman guy and the kokkenes guy though.

you just really need to tighten up your game in some spots. stop getting fancy with the 3bets and iso's and you should see a pretty decent improvement to your win rate IMO.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:20 AM
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watching now but I'm a bit confused..

werent you on a downswing and needing to drop down to 10NL?
Yes

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how the hell are you doing 50NL? did you just deposit to make this vid? lol
and yes
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:34 AM
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I want to give some comments on your comments. I'm not saying that I am right, just feedback.

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lets give some input..

early in the video you get 810o on the button. you need to tighten your button range man, you are raising with almost any 2 cards and I think its a leak in your game. trying to iso the limper with a nit in your bb was also a big mistake IMO, hand is not strong enough to iso w/.

10:50 - you raise w/ 63o blind on blind. once again I suggest you tighten your range as I see it as a leak for you.
The iso raises and blind steals are player dependent. In the 8T hand, utg was a fish and I had a nit in the bb. The nit is going to fold almost always, hence the raise in position and the fish is going to play fit or fold on the flop. This is an area that I think I am actually too tight overall and need to incorporate this type of play into my game more often, but is player dependent. Remember, stealing with a good hand is not stealing, but value betting They call it stealing for a reason.



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13:00 - you 3bet pf w/ 55. you dont have position and you dont know anything about this guy. you do it just because its a button open and you have a pocket pair but IMO flatting for the set is the best play here. if you had a hand like AK or a hand that you are willing to play for stacks with, by all means do it, or if you had a veryy solid read that the guy always is trying to steal.
I think flatting with pp's here for set value is just wrong. You have a good hand, relatively speaking, and are likely ahead of the buttons opening range. You have multiple ways of winning this pot by 3betting also, one by an immediate fold from villain and the 2nd on the flop w/ a cbet.

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27:00 - 3betting the guy that has been taking your button away from you in the cutoff. I understand why you do it, but once again I dont agree with doing it with 45o..
I chose a hand like 45o very specifically versus this villain because it is easy to play postflop. If we are waiting for only value hands, we are missing out totally here. He has been stealing relentlessly in CO and we will likely get much more respect the first time we 3bet him then later on so I would rather it be a junk hand first and then real hands later on.

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41:00 - you get no value of your flopped straight. you have decent position, just flat then play the turn. the fish has better odds of coming along and the guy who led out in the first place may do so again.
I was very torn here on this hand, but with that board, I really thought it could hit the fish's range quite well and hence my raise. I also really hate slow playing.

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I applaud your play on the cartman guy and the kokkenes guy though.
Thanks. I really wish I had been in another seat versus these guys as they were just trying to bleed chips.
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5:45 right table - I don't really like open raising Q7o in the SB against a BB with 50VPIP.

28:00 right table - I assume you'd be leaving this table at this point if you weren't recording. It's really bad.

42:45 left table - I don't think this is great timing for a 3bet bluff because you just 3bet villain a couple hands earlier and he folded.

48:30 right table - I think you need to raise this flop and get it in. AK is in his range, but so is AA, KK, AQ, and maybe KQ. I don't get your river bet. Maybe you didn't notice that the river counterfeited your 2pair?

I disagree with most of SeP's comments. I think that most of the hands in this video are well played.

I think you play so much better in your 2-tabling videos than in the mass-multitabling one (I haven't seen the 6-tabling one yet). If I had to guess, I would say the difference is thinking about every situation vs. autopiloting and reverting to bad tendencies.
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:25 PM
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Am I the only one that can't play the whole video. It freezes after about 15mins. I can play all the other ones fine.
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I have the same prob :/
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that's very odd.....cuz i have no problems and obviously there are others that are fine.
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Nice video, although there weren't any major spots, except the QJ vs. KK near the end, you created a bit of action with some 3bet steals with minority hands, fair play. I think he basically played his hand face up (KK), cbet, then c/c. I definately think a 3bet here would have made this hand a lot more interesting, but obviously this isn't your bad , you played it to standard, nice blocking bet on the river, although it probably could have been smaller.

I can't remember where about's in the video it was, but you folded an open ender to a min cbet (I think it was min), I think you were on autopilot but it could have turned into a great spot for the video, I think the flop was QJJ and you help T9s, QQ definately isn't in his range.

And btw, the video is fine for me also. Nice work, although there wasn't a mammoth amount of action, I enjoyed it.
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