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Old 04-10-2009, 12:31 PM
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Default VIDEO DISCUSSION: jeanpaulvalley 1 - 20NL 2 tables 6max at Minted

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This is my first video. I two-table 20NL on minted for about 40 mins. Nothing too crazy happens, but there are one or two marginal spots that I try to highlight. I try to play a tight ABC game. I'd be grateful for any comments or feedback. There's a 5 second gap at around 48.55, apologies for that.

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Old 04-13-2009, 03:05 PM
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Very first hand table 2 - I stab at that flop a lot.

I think you need a table mod pretty badly. That yellow is horrible.

2 tables seems pretty slow, although I know that the prospect of playing 4 tables and articulating a thought process is daunting.

10:00 table 2 - It's hard to say with so little history with villain, but I think I like c/c a little better than b/f on the river with your top 2. Nice reverse chat ownage call. I was thinking like you did that he had you beat every time when he typed in chat.

18:00 table 1 - I hate your 1/3 pot donk when you hit your set. That's a board that he's going to cbet a ton. Just c/r the flop. Or even c/c and donk the turn. Or c/c and c/r the turn. Your explanation of the donk bet focused on hands that villain is going to get all-in with no matter what you do. You need to be focused on the hand range that will act differently based on different actions from you.

23:15 - you have a hand on both tables. I like preflop in both, but don't like your flop bet-sizing in either. On table 1, with the Qh9h2h board, I think you need to make your cbet bigger (you bet 1.2 into 1.9) to get folds. On table 2, with your TT in the 3bet pot on the AQ3 rainbow board, I think you can cbet smaller (you bet 4.1 into 6.1).

24:30 table 2 - You open JJ on the button and get 3bet by a TAG (20/15 over 20 hands with 1 3bet over 8 opportunities so far). You ask what to do and suggest that flatting may be the worst option. I actually think that flatting is the best option in this situation at this level. I don't think 20 hands with those stats is enough to justify 4bet/calling with JJ here, especially at this level, although I wouldn't hate that play. Folding is supernitty, as you acknowledge in the video.

31:30 table 1 - I don't really like the overcall of a UTG raise with ATo. If it was suited, I think it's fine, but you're just not going to flop something that you want to go with very often.

33:15 table 2 - I like a 3bet bluff OOP with A8o there. Shark24x has been running over the table since he sat, and it's just getting worse as it gets shorthanded. You have to keep him under control. This is something that you'll run into a lot more as you move up.

34:15 table 2 - Again, you can make your cbets smaller in 3bet pots, especially on boards that are relatively dry like this one.

That alarm clock sound effect is horrible. Please turn it off if you make another one of these.

Overall, I think you played solid and did a good job of playing the ABC game that you set out to play. It's obvious that you put a lot of thought into everything that's happening at the tables, which already puts you way ahead of most SSNL players, including a lot of the regulars.
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Old 04-16-2009, 02:28 PM
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how are the games and traffic on the everleaf network? pokerscout shows a max of about 200 players during the day - are there enough games going?

that alarm clock is super annoying....

the only major spots where i would have done something different are the flopped set hand - let the preflop raiser get in his c-bet and then either raise it up or call.... planning an attack on the turn....

the JJ hand is definatly a call or 4bet.... most likely a call in this situation.... a fold is probably the worst choice imo....

nice video and good luck....
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Old 04-16-2009, 07:41 PM
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Thanks a lot for the thoughtful feedback so far guys.

I'll be sure to take your comments on board for the next video (plus I'll turn off that sound!)
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:16 PM
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To answer your question wolfzep, traffic is extremely low. Getting 4 tables of 50NL going at once is tricky. Most players are from europe, so peak times tend to be >5pm friday and sat and sun afternoon and early evening GMT. There probably isn't enough traffic to support a serious grinder. There's enough for me because I'm still recreational/working on my game.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:00 AM
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hey,

i'm playing on minted poker since a couple of weeks. but i can't manage to get PT3 or Hem working + HUD.
Please could you help me out. which HH - convertor are you using and does it work properly?

TY
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:24 PM
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I almost had a heart attack when you folded JJ to a Tag's 3bet. please don't do that again.

Not too many interesting spots unfortunately and given already commented on most of those anyway but here's something I have to add:

27:00 your cbet of 4.2 into 5.1 on T32hh is overkill. It is just too strong for the villain to ever attempt to bluff you and it's too strong for him to continue with most of his weaker hands that have showdown value. In fact, I'm certain you would've bet less if you had air so it's also bad for balance even though it's not that important at 20NL.

27:10 The very next hand you pick up A2o in the CO and decide to raise which is very very bad. You play tighter than me overall and yet I never even considered opening that hand. If you want to play looser then open hands like Q6s on the BTN which I saw you fold but please don't play offsuit ace rags in the CO. Even on the BTN you can pass those up and never look back.

31:35 I believe given said he didn't like your flat here with ATo but I disagree. I think you can flat pretty much any 2 broadways against a 54/36 who is most likely not positionally aware. The 3rd guy in the pot kinda complicates things but I still think your flat is fine.

34:10 I don't like your cbet. You said you're turning your JJ into a bluff but what hands are you bluffing him off that you don't already have drawing close to dead besides QQ (which he probably 4bets at least sometimes preflop) ? I would much prefer C/calling the flop and going from there since now you're giving him the opportunity to bluff with hands that would never call your cbet. And the great thing about it is that he will check back QQ/TT and Kx a ton of the time which polarizes his range to air or TP+.
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