10NL super LAG

[Billy]

Trikkur u mentioned in one video that u and loltrickedu could run over those micro tables with 48/40 style or some like that. Could u make such a video?
Im stuck at 10NL and need to see how this would be done.

[postoakpoker]

That sounds like a losing propostion unless you're running white hot or against particularly rare, nitty 10nl opponents. Bluffing stations = surefire failure.

[nawhead]

I've paid lots of money to see this. I always end up being disapointed.

[Billy]

losing proposition? Its just Im swinging up and down between 220 and 320.
Its like people stop paying my 1-2 streets for value after a while they see Im playing tight game. Than I lose with my QQ-AK hands some buy ins and have to grind it back slowly + I play too loos but thats rarely(sometimes make marginal calls).


" I've paid lots of money to see this. I always end up being disapointed. "

U mean u have a coaching video of this style? could u upload it on megavideo for me?

[Vantek]

Errr have you not noticed Trik27? He plays suuuper lag at 20NL and ends up with 60/58 stats for the 274 hand session lol.

[Billy]

ya, think ive seen it but he is not winning on that session as far i remember. He reloads and reloads....

[Vantek]

What the hell does that matter?! :S

Anyway he ended up winning like a buyin, and was surprised because he thought he ran bad.

[postoakpoker]

Originally Posted by Billy

ya, think ive seen it but he is not winning on that session as far i remember. He reloads and reloads....

that's the moral of the story. playing super lag will at best be extremely high variance, especially at these limits where people call with atc. the mantra for these micro limits is "tight is right". you literally do not have to do anything fancy, because the players will just give their money away over the long run with their abysmally bad strategies. keep valuebetting your strong hands and they'll keep calling with their bottom pair. you'll definitely run into some frustrating times where you'll get stacked by an unlikely two pair that hit on the river, but just concentrate on getting your money in good.

It sounds like you're thinking too much about your own image for this level. while that's a very good skill to have as you move up, these players are generally playing if they think they have a playable hand; they don't adjust too much based on your tendencies. also, if a player is normally passive, checking and calling, when he has a weak hand, but suddenly starts raising and betting aggressively, that should tell you something. I would suggest watching the 10nl vid where trikkur plays 6 tables (the most recent vid). I haven't personally watched it, but the title indicates he plays a tight, straightforward game designed at beating the micro games. keep on playing solid, sometimes boring and frustrating, poker and you'll be fine.

[Padawan]

Billy,
When players pick up on your tight style and start folding to you alot... you can either A) loosen up at that point or B) this is the better option go find a new table with new opponents.

This is something I struggle with as I have been going up and down a few BI as well..
Now I am just really being picky about sitting with Full Stacks and checking out there style of play. I look for high VPIP and kinda reckless callers.

[chinz]

You really shouldn't worry about your image. There is only a few good regulars playing Cake NL10 (if I remember right, you are playing there) and most of them are playing way too weak and cbet-folding too much (vs. other regulars). Against any unknown player or donk play tight aggressive, but against regulars you can try c/r bluffing the flop etc. every now and then.

However 90% of the time you should not think that opponents have any idea of your table image on NL10 and you should just play your hand.

If you are struggling on the micro limits, you should tighten your play all the way to about 15/13 instead of trying to open it up more. When I started playing, I was playing around 13/11 (yes, real NIT) and still winning. Now I'm playing around 22/19