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Old 08-13-2008, 11:57 PM
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Default Spotting common lines

Hi guys,

was wondering if it was possible to make a vid that focuses on spotting common lines that people take e.g. he played this such and such a way which reeks of a set, or slowplayed monster etc I mean we set mine but so do our opponents, and when we hit the flop (not a set) and so do they, is there line which alerts us to the set (or other such holding)

I get caught with sets all the time (opponent has them and I don't see em). If its not worthy of a vid then no problems as I love the vids you guys do anyway.

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Old 08-14-2008, 05:22 AM
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Yes, I like the problem you propose to be discussed as I ran into a set yesterday with my TPTK in the same problem. As I am at work I dont have the hand history but I remember the hand very well:
6 max 25NL
Me: AQo on the button
Raise to 0,85 preflop
Get called by a calling station vpip=50 in the BB

Flop (pot=1,85$):
KQ3r

Not the best flop but its ok. He checks and I c-bet 1,3$ (pretty low but he was very passive so I didnt have to bet much to make him fold).

HE CALLS!! And now alarm bells were ringing in my head, before I saw the turn card I even decided that I will not bet the turn. With middle pair top kicker I dont want to build a big pot. Even if I would have AK , I wouldnt bet the turn (ofcourse I had a decent read on him because I was playing with him for awhile). With TPTK you dont want to be building big pots. Ofcourse the turn was a blank and he checked, I checked (already in mind that I would call any "normal" river bet of him). The river blanked again and he bets 3/4 pot, I called and he showed 33 for the flopped set.

Although I lost the hand, I think I lost the minimum to him. Normally I'd be much more aggressive but luckily I wasnt this time. Ofcourse I could fold to a river bet but as I checked the turn , I was kinda obliged to call a river bet. Then, why do I not bet the turn? I knew he must have had some kind of a hand when he calls my flop bet, and if I would bet the turn and get check-raised , I'd be in a crappy spot (especially with TPTK).


I've read that in No Limit whenever you have TPTK on a dry flopped board and someone is calling you: you're in for some trouble, so keep the pot small.

Many people disagree with me but this is only my opinion: If you cant beat a set, dont build big pots (unless you are sure that your opponent doesnt have a set ofcourse).
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